[Rob_Mac]

Matt

You are correct. A rope system could not be used on my works.

I have a Product history card in front of me

It has an inspection record on the back and you can check them yourself but must fill the card in.

The problem with the HSE statement is that they 'recommend' but it is not something that has to be done.

I know the history of all of my harnesses, the cards are up to date and I am covered to check them as per guidelines

http://simplifiedsafety.co.uk/solutions/fall_arrest_harness/how_do_i_inspect_my_harness/

A very useful topic.

Rob

[Great Outdoors]

Only came back to look at something which came to my attention.

Second hand argument is a nonsense, you do not know the history of the eBay stuff full stop hence To any pro it's worth less. No pro would buy a second hand harness ,Only other advice I will give u is log off this site and do some simple research a lot of posts on here are simply nonsense, the post ref roof coating was hilarious 4lts lol

Chris has totally changed his tune yet guys still take his advice ref moss kill , wake up

[chris scott]

Only came back to look at something which came to me attention.

Second hand argument is a nonsense, you do not know the history of the eBay stuff full stop hence To any pro it's worth less. No pro would buy a second hand harness ,Only other advice I will give u is log off this site and do some simple research a lot of posts on here are simply nonsense, the post ref roof coating was hilarious 4lts lol

Chris has totally changed his tune yet guys still take his advice ref moss kill , wake up

"totally changed his tune" Have I ...in what respect ?
Enter Rob....

[Rob_Mac]

Rob

[B Bailey]

Maximum lifespan of a harness is 10 years, but 5 years from the date first used

[Jettaway]

Chris,

Would I be able to give you a ring about the roofs as well please.

[chris scott]

Chris,

Would I be able to give you a ring about the roofs as well please.

No problem....although according to this lot I don't have a clue and according to Mike have changed my views on roof cleaning.  

[Great Outdoors]

Chris,

Would I be able to give you a ring about the roofs as well please.

have a look on eBay you might be in luck 

[chris scott]

Chris,

Would I be able to give you a ring about the roofs as well please.

have a look on eBay you might be in luck 

Mike ...I had  a quick look . Is it a book or Dvd?

[Great Outdoors]

Only came back to look at something which came to me attention.

Second hand argument is a nonsense, you do not know the history of the eBay stuff full stop hence To any pro it's worth less. No pro would buy a second hand harness ,Only other advice I will give u is log off this site and do some simple research a lot of posts on here are simply nonsense, the post ref roof coating was hilarious 4lts lol

Chris has totally changed his tune yet guys still take his advice ref moss kill , wake up

"totally changed his tune" Have I ...in what respect ?
Enter Rob....

suggest u read ur posts, at one stage u recommend an eBay item after neg comments you quote Hs regs which conflicts with ur rec completely.

To be honest I really don't give a damn if some brainless muppet wants to use second  hand poop,  whatever... Nice to back 

[chris scott]

Only came back to look at something which came to me attention.

Second hand argument is a nonsense, you do not know the history of the eBay stuff full stop hence To any pro it's worth less. No pro would buy a second hand harness ,Only other advice I will give u is log off this site and do some simple research a lot of posts on here are simply nonsense, the post ref roof coating was hilarious 4lts lol

Chris has totally changed his tune yet guys still take his advice ref moss kill , wake up

"totally changed his tune" Have I ...in what respect ?
Enter Rob....

suggest u read ur posts, at one stage u recommend an eBay item after neg comments you quote Hs regs which conflicts with ur rec completely.

To be honest I really don't give a damn if some brainless muppet wants to use second  hand poop,  whatever... Nice to back  

In English please ?
I suggested that if the harness was in good order (after he had given it a  visual inspection) than it would be Ok for his own personal use.
If he is sending an employee up there to clean the roof it is a whole different ball game .

Mike who actually does the cleaning for you and for what reason?

I fail to see where I have changed my views on cleaning roofs... I adopt both methods but prefer Softwashing.

Sealing Concrete roofs I use a clear water based acrylic....Slate and Rosemarys a water-based Fluoropolymer.

My song remains the same

[Rob_Mac]

Can you show me where you said - 'I suggested that if the harness was in good order (after he had given it a visual inspection) then it would be ok for personal use'

I can't see it in any posts. I have removed posts as they detract from what is a very important topic. I see that some of your wording has been altered after the posts have been posted. You do alter your posts a great deal

Rob

[chris scott]

They are all secondhand once you have used them once. Common sense would suggest you don't use anything damaged...  I have three harness sets all from ebay ...all as brand new .
I would worry more about what it is attached too.
If you are employing somebody to go on the roof for you ....you will need to reconsider all of the above.

Here

[Rob_Mac]

I can't see that in what has been said there.

Anyway - Despite changing the nozzle on my MSR Dragonfly I still get a sputtering fuel supply and a lack of ongoing flame, do you know what is wrong with it Christopher?

Rob

[chris scott]

I cook hedgehogs on a camp fire...so can;t help you there

[Rob_Mac]

Thankyou - I thought you may have googled for the info.

Through your suggestion Cleaning4 is now in a situation where he is purchasing an inadequate safe system - would you agree with that?

Do you think his insurance company will accept that 'Chris Scott told me it would be ok'?

Is using barrels of water in a 1 tonne bag something that you would put down on a MS? Would that cover you as a safe working practice, in relation to how your insurance would see it?


Rob

[Rob_Mac]

A rope grab is more important than the harness... Drill and rawlbolt the wall and/or tie it to something solid/heavy. Roof ladders are handy (hire them)
Here this has all the access gear you will need.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fall-arrest-kit-/221589502700?pt=UK_H_G_Ladders_RL&hash=item3397c37aec

This has been changed, utilising barrels has been removed. That is correct isn't it?

Rob

[chris scott]

If I got into larger projects would none of it be ok to use ? If older than 5 years ?

Hse recommend it is inspected by a "professional service " every 6 months . You will need paper work to prove this in the event of something happening/ and or inspection by Hse/insurance company.
So Strictly speaking if it is 6 months old with no " professional inspection records " you should not be using it.

Bearing this in mind  "paperwork" does not make the equipment safe to use. It is down to how the  operator is rigging it and the condition of the equipment at the "time" of use. If it was inspected 12 hours it could still be damaged when you come to use it!!

Remember most paper work is in place as a checklist for Muppets and so "somebody" has got "someone" to blame...nobody wants to be responsible for there own actions .

Just make sure your anchor point is solid.... tree,van,rawlbolts....we have used  water drums in tonne bags.
 

No it's here ....Along with tie it to a tree or a van or drill and rawlbolt the wall.
It is adequate...but he will have to purchase it to determine whether the condition is suitable .

[wpclean]

You two should get in a ring, and go toe to toe for five rounds 

[BDCS]

I can't see that in what has been said there.

Anyway - Despite changing the nozzle on my MSR Dragonfly I still get a sputtering fuel supply and a lack of ongoing flame, do you know what is wrong with it Christopher?

Rob

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51092 I thought you tree huggin, rambling, boot polishing, Daily express readers only walked a mile between the car and a pub. What fuel do you use in your tilley lamp pot noodle water boiler