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ben M

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how much,help please
« on: October 23, 2014, 07:59:12 pm »
how much would you pay a experienced window cleaner per day working with the owner of the business and not driving?

Many thanks

Ben

p1w1

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2014, 08:05:52 pm »
if it was working for you then i would want at least a few hundred and a pair of ear plugs  ;D..Hard one really i reckon at least £10 an hour for a good hard working person or perhaps a bit less but some kind of bonus tied in if you get the weeks work done that you had planned to do. My brother is self employed and helps me out now and again so i pay him on the amount of work he gets done in a day so basically the more he cleans the more he gets, but because he's self employed he can just invoice me and i pay him dont have to worry about tax etc.

ben M

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 08:11:21 pm »
if it was working for you then i would want at least a few hundred and a pair of ear plugs  ;D..Hard one really i reckon at least £10 an hour for a good hard working person or perhaps a bit less but some kind of bonus tied in if you get the weeks work done that you had planned to do. My brother is self employed and helps me out now and again so i pay him on the amount of work he gets done in a day so basically the more he cleans the more he gets, but because he's self employed he can just invoice me and i pay him dont have to worry about tax etc.
;D he's got his own round but not busy enough so i can hire him sometimes

p1w1

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 08:17:23 pm »
if it was working for you then i would want at least a few hundred and a pair of ear plugs  ;D..Hard one really i reckon at least £10 an hour for a good hard working person or perhaps a bit less but some kind of bonus tied in if you get the weeks work done that you had planned to do. My brother is self employed and helps me out now and again so i pay him on the amount of work he gets done in a day so basically the more he cleans the more he gets, but because he's self employed he can just invoice me and i pay him dont have to worry about tax etc.
;D he's got his own round but not busy enough so i can hire him sometimes
if it was me then i would be looking at about £10 an hour, also depends if you can carry enough water for both of you to make it worth your while.

ben M

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2014, 08:53:48 pm »
when you are self employed you can get at least £200 a day,would you accept £80 for 8 hours of work?

p1w1

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2014, 08:57:53 pm »
when you are self employed you can get at least £200 a day,would you accept £80 for 8 hours of work?


No i meant thats what i would be looking at paying him..for me i find it hard enough getting out of bed to earn £80 for 1 hours work  ;D

martin hulstone

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2014, 09:06:34 pm »
I sometimes employ casual labour to an experienced window cleaner and i pay him 15 pounds an hour. I live in poole so hourly rate depends on area you live in i suppose

Window Lickers

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2014, 09:06:36 pm »
when you are self employed you can get at least £200 a day,would you accept £80 for 8 hours of work?



You can earn £200 a day without breaking a sweat - but no amount of sweat will earn you a penny if you haven't got the work.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

PoleKing

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2014, 09:39:23 pm »
I seem to have found a good balance paying £150 a day.
Yes, the guys can earn more on their own but turn up at 8, work, drive home at 5 no worries, no pressure.
Invoice me and I've paid that day.
It's a win/win in my eyes.
The guys that sub for me seem happy.

Ben-genuinely, I don't think a tenner an hour is enough for self employed.

Also, I feel that it's fairer to pay day and half day rate.
Because, say you finish on a site at 2pm. That's 3 working hours lost but, ime, one won't do their own work in those last few hours so effectively, they're down I know one could work but invariably, people don't.

I pay £150 a day (8-5 with coffee & lunch breaks) and £80 half day (8-12ish or 12/1ish till 5ish)
It has, and does, seem fair to both parties to me.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

G Griffin

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2014, 09:43:49 pm »
I think he should pay £10 an hour, so we could call him Ben10.
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Window Lickers

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2014, 09:49:42 pm »
Bent en?
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

G Griffin

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2014, 09:57:55 pm »
 ;D
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p1w1

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2014, 09:58:04 pm »
I seem to have found a good balance paying £150 a day.
Yes, the guys can earn more on their own but turn up at 8, work, drive home at 5 no worries, no pressure.
Invoice me and I've paid that day.
It's a win/win in my eyes.
The guys that sub for me seem happy.

Ben-genuinely, I don't think a tenner an hour is enough for self employed.

Also, I feel that it's fairer to pay day and half day rate.
Because, say you finish on a site at 2pm. That's 3 working hours lost but, ime, one won't do their own work in those last few hours so effectively, they're down I know one could work but invariably, people don't.

I pay £150 a day (8-5 with coffee & lunch breaks) and £80 half day (8-12ish or 12/1ish till 5ish)
It has, and does, seem fair to both parties to me.
If they are using their own van then yes above is fine but not with using your own van and having someone work with you then your going to struggle making any money off them at those rates

PoleKing

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2014, 10:04:52 pm »
I seem to have found a good balance paying £150 a day.
Yes, the guys can earn more on their own but turn up at 8, work, drive home at 5 no worries, no pressure.
Invoice me and I've paid that day.
It's a win/win in my eyes.
The guys that sub for me seem happy.

Ben-genuinely, I don't think a tenner an hour is enough for self employed.

Also, I feel that it's fairer to pay day and half day rate.
Because, say you finish on a site at 2pm. That's 3 working hours lost but, ime, one won't do their own work in those last few hours so effectively, they're down I know one could work but invariably, people don't.

I pay £150 a day (8-5 with coffee & lunch breaks) and £80 half day (8-12ish or 12/1ish till 5ish)
It has, and does, seem fair to both parties to me.
If they are using their own van then yes above is fine but not with using your own van and having someone work with you then your going to struggle making any money off them at those rates

We do ok.  ;)
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

p1w1

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2014, 10:08:08 pm »
Depends what you think is ok I guess

PoleKing

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2014, 10:08:44 pm »
Depends what you think is ok I guess

'Spose so...
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

ben M

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2014, 10:15:13 pm »
I seem to have found a good balance paying £150 a day.
Yes, the guys can earn more on their own but turn up at 8, work, drive home at 5 no worries, no pressure.
Invoice me and I've paid that day.
It's a win/win in my eyes.
The guys that sub for me seem happy.

Ben-genuinely, I don't think a tenner an hour is enough for self employed.

Also, I feel that it's fairer to pay day and half day rate.
Because, say you finish on a site at 2pm. That's 3 working hours lost but, ime, one won't do their own work in those last few hours so effectively, they're down I know one could work but invariably, people don't.

I pay £150 a day (8-5 with coffee & lunch breaks) and £80 half day (8-12ish or 12/1ish till 5ish)
It has, and does, seem fair to both parties to me.
i was thinking about the same thing,thanks mate

Leeds

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2014, 08:53:29 am »
I try pay my employees at least £200 for half day if we can. It keep them happy and earns us at least double that for each employee.

But i'm going to a 5star hotel during lunch, cos i'm too minted and my top girlfriend wants caviar.

almost forgot........... happy days!

Smudger

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2014, 09:11:17 am »
I try pay my employees at least £200 for half day if we can. It keep them happy and earns us at least double that for each employee.

But i'm going to a 5star hotel during lunch, cos i'm too minted and my top girlfriend wants caviar.

almost forgot........... happy days!

You having a wet dream again ???


There is a world of difference between self employed/casual as tax holidays etc are the subbys responsibilities where as PAYE they get holiday pay, you do the tax and NI

If I was looking for an experienced windy on a self employed basis  we would pay around the £15 p/h mark, but be warned, they may not work to your standards, have bad habits, slow working, resent working for a rival, and you are showing them your customer base and prices...

Darran

Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

dazmond

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Re: how much,help please
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2014, 09:29:13 am »
I try pay my employees at least £200 for half day if we can. It keep them happy and earns us at least double that for each employee.

But i'm going to a 5star hotel during lunch, cos i'm too minted and my top girlfriend wants caviar.

almost forgot........... happy days!

 ;D ;D ;D im staying in a 5 star hotel tomorrow night in york!cant wait!put the clocks back one hour too so me and girlfriend get an extra hour in bed.defo happy days!! :D :D

on topic i wouldnt pay anybody more than £60 a day if they were to be casual labour in my van.not that i would anyway.i much prefer working on my own.making sure the jobs done right. ;)
price higher/work harder!