[Richard iSparkle]

ok then guys.. on the subject of squeegees.. is this a good basic setup.. http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/unger-ergotec-50th-anniversary-kit.html

[Spruce]

Sounds more like you have ran before you can walk! Are you serious you cant use a squeegee?.
You and vin should join forces! 2 half a cups will make a full one  

In all honesty we don't use squeegees and applicator very often. Sometimes a month or more could go past without getting one out as we are wfp. We are in a position where we don't have to take on any work that requires a squeegee.

I guess its similar to a lot of traditional window cleaners refusing to clean gutters, soffits, fascias and conservatory roofs.

I have never ragged a window with a chamois but does that make me any worse off?

There is a plumber in Redcar that is self employed after just a 6 weeks plumbing course. He can't solder copper pipe - he says its not necessary as he uses plastic. I'm shocked TBH but will things be totally different in 10 or 20 years. Will copper pipe soldering have become a lost art because its not required/taught anymore.

Here is an article I found interesting.
http://financesonline.com/10-disappearing-jobs-that-wont-exist-in-10-years-professions-that-wont-guarantee-career-opportunities/

and here's a list of jobs that no longer exist.
http://www.wowthatscool.com/11-jobs-that-no-longer-exist/gandy-dancers

[Mick Kent]

Spruce no offence but this is window cleaning, i can clean with rags, squeegees wfp, afterall im a window cleaner. Im sure you know how to use a squeegee too.
If i couldnt use a squeegee then all my commercial jobs would end up finding someone else thinking i was some sort of cowboy.
Using rags was pre 70's lol applicator and squeegee is still the main method today followed by wfp. Anyway id be ashamed to say i run a business where my staff and i cant use the most basic of tool for the job.

[Window Lickers]

So you would feel confident in 1 of your franchisees who cant squeegee to do an inside clean for 1 of your customers then would you vin??

Or would you instead simply show him how to do it so he can do the inside clean without asking an alternative way to clean the inside?

None of my guys ever use a squeegee.  If a job truly required a squeegee for an interior clean (and I've not come across one yet) then we wouldn't do it.

Vin

Can you use a squeegee, competently, for the purposes of cleaning windows, with either hand whilst up a ladder to the satisfaction of your customers and own standards?

[Window Lickers]

Where it gets grey is speed and quality of work.

FTFY

[cgh window cleaning]

One of the easiest ways to clean most internals is squeegee and applicator.
The very basics of window cleaning is how to use a squeegee,window cleaners who can't are like
Painters that can't use a brush or brickies that can't use a trowel.

In answer to the question look at maybe the dragon fly or vikan easy shine kits they may help unger may also have a something.

That's daft. You can't put up bricks without a trowel but you could work full time as a wc and never use a squeegee. That said, I do think every wc should be able to use one. Where it gets grey is speed. If you worked ladders with a squeegee you will be quick. I never did and whilst I can use a squeegee and fan, I am slow. Average domestics inside are quicker with microfibres for me.

In a way your right you can get by and make a living cleaning domestics only and with wfp.
But I'm commercial and internals are a regular part of the job there is no other easier way than squeegee and applicator.
I clean a large car show room were the glass along the front is about 15ft high and about 150ft in length with various internal partioning if you were to clean it with cloths you'd be there all week.

[Perfect Windows]

Spruce no offence but this is window cleaning, i can clean with rags, squeegees wfp, afterall im a window cleaner. Im sure you know how to use a squeegee too.
If i couldnt use a squeegee then all my commercial jobs would end up finding someone else thinking i was some sort of cowboy.
Using rags was pre 70's lol applicator and squeegee is still the main method today followed by wfp. Anyway id be ashamed to say i run a business where my staff and i cant use the most basic of tool for the job.

You've made a commercial decision not to clean the backs of terraces.  Similarly, we've made a commercial decision not to do work that requires a squeegee.  We do our utmost never to take on work that requires us to do the insides.  We earn less per hour than we do cleaning the outsides WFP, so we don't take it on if we can possibly avoid it.  If it was high level internal as per the OP, we'd simply not quote.

We also don't do commercial, bar a couple where we do a house and the person has asked for their office to be cleaned.

However, despite this hideous gap in our offerings we still get people's windows clean to their satisfaction so I hope I am still allowed to call myself a "window cleaner".

Vin

[Window Lickers]

Wasnt sure if you'd missed this previous question ......

None of my guys ever use a squeegee.  If a job truly required a squeegee for an interior clean (and I've not come across one yet) then we wouldn't do it.

Vin

Can you use a squeegee, competently, for the purposes of cleaning windows, with either hand whilst up a ladder to the satisfaction of your customers and own standards?

[Spursboy1972]

Yes I can, more than competently..

[Mick Kent]

Spruce no offence but this is window cleaning, i can clean with rags, squeegees wfp, afterall im a window cleaner. Im sure you know how to use a squeegee too.
If i couldnt use a squeegee then all my commercial jobs would end up finding someone else thinking i was some sort of cowboy.
Using rags was pre 70's lol applicator and squeegee is still the main method today followed by wfp. Anyway id be ashamed to say i run a business where my staff and i cant use the most basic of tool for the job.

You've made a commercial decision not to clean the backs of terraces.  Similarly, we've made a commercial decision not to do work that requires a squeegee.  We do our utmost never to take on work that requires us to do the insides.  We earn less per hour than we do cleaning the outsides WFP, so we don't take it on if we can possibly avoid it.  If it was high level internal as per the OP, we'd simply not quote.

We also don't do commercial, bar a couple where we do a house and the person has asked for their office to be cleaned.

However, despite this hideous gap in our offerings we still get people's windows clean to their satisfaction so I hope I am still allowed to call myself a "window cleaner".

Vin

You can call yourself what you want.

[Window Lickers]

Is that a mug?

[Mick Kent]

No its half a cup.

[C o z y]

Water bomb/balloons.




Or get a window cleaner to do 'em for you.

[bobplum]

how many car drivers have a road atlas in their car compared to a Sat nav?
I too only do WFP jobs, i can use a squeegee, wagtail my favorite, but would never take a traditional job on

Why squeegee when you can Karcher vac!!:)

[C o z y]

Yeah, and when the battery goes flat, you can wait a few hours while your custy re-charges it for ya Bob. 

Or, like I said, get a window cleaner to do 'em for ya 

[C o z y]

Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please?

What do you tell her?

1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.

2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.

3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.

Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. 

[8weekly]

Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please?

What do you tell her?

1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.

2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.

3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.

Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. 

Or are you looking for a regular window cleaner or do you just want it all clean for your visitors? The answer to that question determines whether I do them or not.

[robbo333]

If you can't use a squeegee then go on a bwca course and learn.
I don't give a t0ss what other people can or cannot do. I learnt to squeegee because I'm serious about my business and providing the best possible service I can.

[C o z y]

Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please? It will be a regular clean after that.

What do you tell her?

1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.

2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.

3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.

Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. 

Or are you looking for a regular window cleaner or do you just want it all clean for your visitors? The answer to that question determines whether I do them or not.

There ya go.

[8weekly]

Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please? It will be a regular clean after that.

What do you tell her?

1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.

2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.

3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.

Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. 

Or are you looking for a regular window cleaner or do you just want it all clean for your visitors? The answer to that question determines whether I do them or not.

There ya go.

I leave one offs for those short of work. Shall I give 'em your number next time?