[Perfect Windows]

Mrs Smith calls some geezer about window cleaning. Asks, can you clean my windows, inside and out, I've got visitors coming, and want everything tip top please?

What do you tell her?

1 Yes, no problem, when do you need them done.

2 Yes, we can do the outsides, but you'll need to get a window cleaner to do insides.

3 Nahh, can't be bothered, I'm a big number on some forum, and I won't get out the bath for a wee for less than a monkey, so sorry missus, you'll have to call some minion to do crappy little jobs like yours. I'm far too busy lookin at myself in the mirror and spouting crap on CIU to bother learnin the basics of my trade. Anyway, I'm scared of heights above 5 feet, and have very little hand-eye co-ordination.

Choose any of the above. I promise to look later. 

I'd tell her "no, as it's quite clearly a one-off. We're too busy servicing our regular customers, I'm afraid"

Vin

[C o z y]

Vin, read the dark type in the quote.

[8weekly]

Vin, read the dark type in the quote.

Well I would do them then.

[Perfect Windows]

She can say what she likes, it's a one-off.

Anyway, pedantry apart, I don't do insides unless I have to.  

Some people choose not to do, say, backs of terraces.  Some people choose not to do gutter clearing.  Some people choose not to clean frames.  Some people don't clean bad payers.  Some people don't persevere with rude customers.  Some people don't drive far for work.  Some people can't clean over conservatories.  If the wrong type of customer for how you run your business wants your services, you say "no".

So, we all select our customers to fit how we run our businesses in some way or another, whether you choose to admit it or not is up to you.

Vin

[C o z y]

She can say what she likes, it's a one-off.

Anyway, pedantry apart, I don't do insides unless I have to.  

Some people choose not to do, say, backs of terraces.  Some people choose not to do gutter clearing.  Some people choose not to clean frames.  Some people don't clean bad payers.  Some people don't persevere with rude customers.  Some people don't drive far for work.  Some people can't clean over conservatories.  If the wrong type of customer for how you run your business wants your services, you say "no".

So, we all select our customers to fit how we run our businesses in some way or another, whether you choose to admit it or not is up to you.

Vin

And some people can't use the tools and can't clean insides, and can't provide a complete window cleaning service.

This trade can be done by monkeys, and even they could do insides.

[wfp master]

hi,

any advice on equipment to clean high windows on internal properties.

i have staff who cannot use a squeegee and i don't want to use ladders..

thanks

R

[8weekly]

She can say what she likes, it's a one-off.

Anyway, pedantry apart, I don't do insides unless I have to.  

Some people choose not to do, say, backs of terraces.  Some people choose not to do gutter clearing.  Some people choose not to clean frames.  Some people don't clean bad payers.  Some people don't persevere with rude customers.  Some people don't drive far for work.  Some people can't clean over conservatories.  If the wrong type of customer for how you run your business wants your services, you say "no".

So, we all select our customers to fit how we run our businesses in some way or another, whether you choose to admit it or not is up to you.

Vin

And some people can't use the tools and can't clean insides, and can't provide a complete window cleaning service.

This trade can be done by monkeys, and even they could do insides.

You proved it. 

[C o z y]

Yeah, great comeback mate. LOL pmsl hahahaha etc.

Imagine being in a trade that you can't provide a proper service when asked. hahaha etc.
I spent years driving all over Europe and North Africa. Never had a job or load, or any challenge that I wasn't able to handle.
Would feel really silly if I couldn't handle any work in bloody window cleaning. I mean, there isn't really much of any challenge in this game is there?

This is why I like to stay in the "loony" section of this forum, it's fun. On this section, I find myself thinking that window cleaning is getting too complicated for some. We're talking about working inside, with ladders. Basic stuff.

[Perfect Windows]

Why are you so angry Cozy?

We all select subsets of work that we want to do.  For a while I cleared gutters with a guttervac.  It dropped my hourly rate, so I flogged the equipment, learned and moved on.  Now I'm sorry to be a bore on the subject but hourly rate is all.  The one thing a sole trader can't do is increase the number of hours in a year, so hourly rate defines how much you can earn.

Interior cleans drop my guys' hourly rates, so we choose not to do them.  If you want to turn that into some kind of peeing-up-a-wall test of angry manliness, go ahead but you're making yourself furious over something that just doesn't matter.

Vin

[Mick Kent]

Here you go this kid should be able to show you how its done lads.

[C o z y]

Why are you so angry Cozy?

We all select subsets of work that we want to do.  For a while I cleared gutters with a guttervac.  It dropped my hourly rate, so I flogged the equipment, learned and moved on.  Now I'm sorry to be a bore on the subject but hourly rate is all.  The one thing a sole trader can't do is increase the number of hours in a year, so hourly rate defines how much you can earn.

Interior cleans drop my guys' hourly rates, so we choose not to do them.  If you want to turn that into some kind of peeing-up-a-wall test of angry manliness, go ahead but you're making yourself furious over something that just doesn't matter.

Vin

I'm not angry Vin.



 I'm taking the urine out of pretend windies who avoid learning the basics of their trade. I know your situation. I understand your point. Why are you pulling this onto your set up?
Calm down mate.

If someone claims to be a windie, and has no skills, and a fear of the basics, like fanning, or working above 5 feet, or speaking to people, or has a dire fear of rejection, when some punter says "no thanks", then there's a clue in there somewhere.

HTH to clear this up.

[Perfect Windows]

Why are you pulling this onto your set up?

I don't understand this sentence.  The rest of it is lovely, though. And, to a large extent, I agree with it.

Vin

[C o z y]

I don't know, I was under the influence of my breakfast.

Your set up, meaning blokes who have come directly into window cleaning as franchisees. Probably had no practice fanning and working off ladders, so will have no basic skills except for those taught by you. Does that explain?

Anyway, I've got to go and earn a few beer coupons now, as I have a shop insides to do. Purely coincidence.  

[SeanK]

Nonsense, I don't think there is anybody alive who couldn't learn to use a squeegee, fanning is just a
method of speeding up the process.
So if a large amount of your work requires you to learn and practice fanning then you would be a fool not to
learn it.
If you do little or no traditional work then the basic skills will do.
The same goes when working from a ladder, if you decide that your not going use a ladder because of safety
reasons then there's not much point in learning how to work on one.
Plenty of window cleaners have no interest in cleaning interiors, most of the full time traditional guys near me
don't touch them.
I don't offer abseil or working from a cherry picker window cleaning does that mean I cant call myself a true
window cleaner and don't offer a proper service.

[C o z y]

Calm down. You're posting stuff I haven't said. This is why it's a waste of time going over the same old crap that's been posted on here for years. 

I don't give a shyte who I upset now, here's the point:

There are so called window cleaners on CIU, that spout about how long they've been going in this game and how much they earn etc. They give advice to any newbies, then moan about newbies.

Then when they find a job too complicated, like cleaning inside windows, they come on here asking what method to use. THEN, some multi-millionaire tips up and tells 'em to try a Mrs Mopp window vac !!

This makes me laugh for a short time, then I get bored and sod off back to the loony department of CIU because that's where all the old Windies are on.

If anyone of these multi-millionaire windies on here need any help on how to fan, here's a little blonde bird to explain it to you. 

By the way, if you dribble, just lay an old towel or bed sheet under where your working.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_0zV79zsk&list=FL9v7w-uFuwoI_ZYR66YAEbQ&index=8

HTH

[8weekly]

Calm down. You're posting stuff I haven't said. This is why it's a waste of time going over the same old crap that's been posted on here for years. 

I don't give a shyte who I upset now, here's the point:

There are so called window cleaners on CIU, that spout about how long they've been going in this game and how much they earn etc. They give advice to any newbies, then moan about newbies.

Then when they find a job too complicated, like cleaning inside windows, they come on here asking what method to use. THEN, some multi-millionaire tips up and tells 'em to try a Mrs Mopp window vac !!

This makes me laugh for a short time, then I get bored and sod off back to the loony department of CIU because that's where all the old Windies are on.

If anyone of these multi-millionaire windies on here need any help on how to fan, here's a little blonde bird to explain it to you. 

By the way, if you dribble, just lay an old towel or bed sheet under where your working.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_0zV79zsk&list=FL9v7w-uFuwoI_ZYR66YAEbQ&index=8

HTH

It's your anger that's strange.

[C o z y]

Stop stalking my posts, and I might calm down. I prefer women mate, go ask Bateman for a date or summat. HTH 

[C o z y]

By the way, I'M NOT ANGRY!!!!

[Clever Forum Name]

I have to say Cozy/gary999 and a few others are the only reason why i post on here and read. Such entertainment.

[Window Lickers]

Calm down. You're posting stuff I haven't said. This is why it's a waste of time going over the same old crap that's been posted on here for years.  

I don't give a shyte who I upset now, here's the point:

There are so called window cleaners on CIU, that spout about how long they've been going in this game and how much they earn etc. They give advice to any newbies, then moan about newbies.

Then when they find a job too complicated, like cleaning inside windows, they come on here asking what method to use. THEN, some multi-millionaire tips up and tells 'em to try a Mrs Mopp window vac !!

This makes me laugh for a short time, then I get bored and sod off back to the loony department of CIU because that's where all the old Windies are on.

If anyone of these multi-millionaire windies on here need any help on how to fan, here's a little blonde bird to explain it to you.  

By the way, if you dribble, just lay an old towel or bed sheet under where your working.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_0zV79zsk&list=FL9v7w-uFuwoI_ZYR66YAEbQ&index=8

HTH

lol

This is true.

And that is Cosy commentating and his missus doing the fanning. True.

She didnt have the angle quite right though on the second corner, she would have dropped a line there.