[Tadgh O Shea]

Hi Guys,

We have developed an excellent method for deep cleaning all types of washable leather.

For anyone looking to provide a good add on service to their clients this is the perfect fit. We have many carpet cleaners now using this method with much success

Our Bio Kleen Heavy Duty Cleaner has multiple applications & it is particularly effective when deep cleaning white and cream leather furniture. If you take a look at the below videos and images you will see the products in use.


Deep Cleaning White Leather Couch in Car Showroom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76B2Cq24PDw&list=UUWmS4P-1eViUCwdWe4XCdvw&index=2

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55633448/White%20Leather%20Seating.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55633448/White%20Leather%20Coach%20Complete.jpg


Deep Cleaning Office Chair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48vnxW9G1i8&list=UUWmS4P-1eViUCwdWe4XCdvw&index=3

Additional Images (Green Leather)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55633448/Green%20Leather.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55633448/Green%20Leather%202.jpg

This heavy duty deep cleaner is non hazardous & completely safe to use, it will not cause any detrimental damage to the leather being cleaned.

For anyone looking to protect the surface after it has been deep cleaned we carry two unique nano based sealers

For anyone requiring further information just drop me an email on info@jskcleaning.ie

regards

Tadgh

Only watched one video and that was the guy cleaning the white leather chair.

DO NOT CLEAN PIGMENTED LEATHER THIS WAY GUYS

He is cleaning it with a melamine sponge the chemicals he is using are non ionic and there is no surfactant , this will cause the sponge to become very very aggressive and will damage and remove the top coat. You can actually hear quite well the grinding sound as he cleans it.

Tadgh, it's clear you have very little experience with leather cleaning and restoration.

Paul i can assure you i have cleaned many washable leather pieces of furniture with this method, used as directed with the instructions provided i have never seen or heard from anyone that it has caused any damage to any washable leather.

[CleanerCarpets]

it does sound as though its being sanded rather than just cleaned

almost sounds as though its a synthetic being cleaned not leather

[Tadgh O Shea]

it does sound as though its being sanded rather than just cleaned

almost sounds as though its a synthetic being cleaned not leather

Yes you are on the ball it was a synthetic leather chair being cleaned, most companies supplying leather cleaning products will recommend the same microcleaning pads for use with their products to deep clean washable leather even though they might have different names for these pads.

[Paul Moss]

it does sound as though its being sanded rather than just cleaned

almost sounds as though its a synthetic being cleaned not leather

Yes you are on the ball it was a synthetic leather chair being cleaned, most companies supplying leather cleaning products will recommend the same microcleaning pads for use with their products to deep clean washable leather even though they might have different names for these pads.

Using the sponge that way with that type of chemical will have the same surface aggression / result with pigmented leather . On a new well topcoated leather you will not get a massive amount of damage to the naked eye but on a worn leather, which is the majority of cleaning, it will rip the topcoat to shreds and also remove pigment.

[Tadgh O Shea]

Paul you will have to come cleaning leather sometime with me, I think you would be in for a surprise.     Tadgh

[John Kelly]

I agree with Paul. For a restoration clean they are brilliant if you are then adding more colour or a top coat. For normal cleaning they are abrasive and will scratch the surface of the pigment.

[Paul Moss]

Paul you will have to come cleaning leather sometime with me, I think you would be in for a surprise.     Tadgh

[JandS]

Tadgh...e mailed you last night.

[CleanerCarpets]

ok - so when the thread is about leather products you pop up and recommend a cleaner and post links to youtube videos that also describe cleaning leather when actually you arent cleaning leather at all?!

whats with this washable leather description!!??

doesnt give you much credibility if you arent even describing your fabrics correctly to be honest when one will be cleaned completely differently to another

recommending a product/method to people who may be new or looking to get into leather cleaning and demonstrating it on what looks like faux suede is very poor - you could be costing someone who isnt sure of what they are doing at worst an insurance claim or at best possibly an unhappy customer

its comes across as you know its a cleaner, it cleans but you dont actually have the experience or knowledge yourself of what you should or can do with it

i wouldnt want you cleaning for me - you believe one thing does it all and actually thats far from the case and whats worse you are selling this to people who havent got the knowledge to know better

[Mike Halliday]

must has been 5-6yrs ago we all tried these sponges and thought they were great, as long as you have massive amounts of solution to keep the sponge lubricated, (you can see tadgh soaking the sponge) but in the end we all saw the errow of our ways when we realised its very easy to remove the top layer of the leather.

they look like they do an amazing job, even with just water.

we all tried them and now we don't use them for general leather cleaning, there must be a reason seasoned  professionals  stopped using them

[CleanerCarpets]

well he isnt even cleaning leather with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tadgh O Shea]

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Using the sponge that way with that type of chemical will have the same surface aggression / result with pigmented leather . On a new well topcoated leather you will not get a massive amount of damage to the naked eye but on a worn leather, which is the majority of cleaning, it will rip the topcoat to shreds and also remove pigment.
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I would agree with you on this Paul, the pads are abrasive and if not used correctly could definitely damage worn leather surfaces but when used correctly there will be no problems. For any client we supply with this package we provide full instructional details to avoid any mishap taking place. We have been using this method for over 10 years with no difficulties. Like with all cleaning tasks if care is taken to analyse the job in question there should be no problems.

[LTT Leathercare]

Magic erasers should never be used to clean leather - they are melamine sand paper and the reason they get good results is that they cut through the top layer of finish (exacerbated by following up with a microfibre cloth).  
They are fine to use on hard surfaces, vinyl and laminates (which I suspect is what is being cleaned here) but not leather unless you are doing a restoration process after.
This was tried and tested many years ago and proved to damage the surface which also makes the leather get dirtier again much quicker.
For vinyl and laminates I would love to try some as I have yet to find anything that actually works

Have you checked the surface when you have finished (if it is leather) to see what has happened to it.

What is washable leather?  How are you identifying what you are cleaning before you start?

Leaving the cleaner (expert or not) to formulate his own strength is always a risk as a cleaner that is too strong for the finish will cause problems.

Our newly formulated Deep Clean is giving great results if anyone wants to try it.
Hope this helps
Judyb

[CleanerCarpets]

from what i understand about colloids is giving the solution time to work is paramount - i dont understand why using a wipe on wipe off method is best, it goes against the way the colloids act on the soiling

they definitely have a place in cleaning and it will be interesting to see how they progress, but its weird how some say it can be used stronger for more stubborn dirt when the dilution is suppose to be high for the chemistry to work?

[Paul Moss]

from what i understand about colloids is giving the solution time to work is paramount - i dont understand why using a wipe on wipe off method is best, it goes against the way the colloids act on the soiling

they definitely have a place in cleaning and it will be interesting to see how they progress, but its weird how some say it can be used stronger for more stubborn dirt when the dilution is suppose to be high for the chemistry to work?

Higher concentrate will always work better with any chemical ( to a point) however with this chemical it needs to be wetted out quiet a bit to work best.

[Tadgh O Shea]

Magic erasers should never be used to clean leather - they are melamine sand paper and the reason they get good results is that they cut through the top layer of finish (exacerbated by following up with a microfibre cloth).  
They are fine to use on hard surfaces, vinyl and laminates (which I suspect is what is being cleaned here) but not leather unless you are doing a restoration process after.
This was tried and tested many years ago and proved to damage the surface which also makes the leather get dirtier again much quicker.
For vinyl and laminates I would love to try some as I have yet to find anything that actually works

Have you checked the surface when you have finished (if it is leather) to see what has happened to it.

What is washable leather?  How are you identifying what you are cleaning before you start?

Leaving the cleaner (expert or not) to formulate his own strength is always a risk as a cleaner that is too strong for the finish will cause problems.

Our newly formulated Deep Clean is giving great results if anyone wants to try it.
Hope this helps
Judyb

Hi Judy, yes i know where you are coming from, you see our micelles product is one of the safest cleaning solutions available to clean leather and as you know there are leathers you can wash and there are leathers that you have to be very careful on what you are using, i take your point on the microcleaning pads as there are many different grades available, when we sell our leather cleaning kit to  detailers or end users we always include full instructions, we carry three different grades of microcleaning pads and always use the softer grade melamine pad for our leather cleaning kit, on the microfiber we include a very soft blend terry which is fine for wiping off all the loosened soils and will not abrade the surface, for ongoing maintenance of leather we have unique microfiber detailing cloths which are perfect to clean leather surfaces or any delicate surface as they cant scratch, we have have been cleaning all washable types of leather with this method for years with no problems, and yes i will agree with people about microcleaning pads being abrasive, the grade we use in our kit is the softest grade available but is still abrasive and for this reason its covered very well on the instruction sheet.

[LTT Leathercare]

Anything abrasive will deteriorate the finish.  There is absolutely no need to use anything such as these if leather is cleaned correctly with products that work safely and gently.
What makes your leather cleaner 'safe'?
As we all know if dirt has damaged the finished then almost anything can cause damage.
How do you recommend testing the leather prior to cleaning to see what type you have and how it should be cleaned particularly to those who have had no training?
Microfibre is fabric and would be cleaned very differently anyway
The point of not using microfibre cloths for cleaning leather is nothing to do with 'scratching' the surface
If you agree that the pads are abrasive why are you supplying them?
Cheers
Judyb

[Radek Jablonski]

tadgh, no real detailer would use it on the leather, only cowboys I say, valeters that use to call themselves to be detailers.

[Tadgh O Shea]

Anything abrasive will deteriorate the finish.  There is absolutely no need to use anything such as these if leather is cleaned correctly with products that work safely and gently.
What makes your leather cleaner 'safe'?
As we all know if dirt has damaged the finished then almost anything can cause damage.
How do you recommend testing the leather prior to cleaning to see what type you have and how it should be cleaned particularly to those who have had no training?
Microfibre is fabric and would be cleaned very differently anyway
The point of not using microfibre cloths for cleaning leather is nothing to do with 'scratching' the surface
If you agree that the pads are abrasive why are you supplying them?
Cheers
Judyb

Judy i have used your products in the past and found them to be excellent, our Bio-Kleen heavy duty cleaner is derived from colloid chemistry its non-caustic,non-corrosive,non-toxic, and safe to use on any surface that is washable with water, i agree with you Judy microcleaning pads or melamine pads are abrasive and need to be used with due care and attention when used on soft surfaces, when cleaning leather with colloid chemistry which is very safe and effective our microcleaning pads will eliminate the toughest soils without having to use forceful rubbing action, you can then use a soft terry microfiber cloth to absorb all the loosened soils. this is the method we have been using and sharing for many years now as we have found it to be very productive for us. other companies use other methods and as you know Judy many companies promoting leather cleaning products also promote microcleaning pads to be used in combination with their cleaning solutions for removing ingrained dirt from leather, i am sure they also provide proper instructions on how to use these pads with care when used on leather surfaces, and yes Judy there are different leather types where our method would not be recommended. the reason we sell microcleaning pads is because they are one of the best tools you can have for deep cleaning surfaces, we carry three different grades of microcleaning pads and depending on which type of surface we are cleaning or our clients require we will recommend the most suitable grade pad.

[Tadgh O Shea]

tadgh, no real detailer would use it on the leather, only cowboys I say, valeters that use to call themselves to be detailers.

Radek, we have professional detailers in the UK who charge theirs clients £100's to detail their  vehicles and swear by microcleaning pads because of the results that can be achieved, if you have the right grade microcleaning pad and use them with due care and attention you wont have any problems.    Tadgh