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brianbarber

  • Posts: 995
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #60 on: September 14, 2014, 04:26:25 pm »
I always travel with Ninja on its back so not an option anyway for me.
Don't like driving with it upright, seems too unstable for me.
Like the idea of carrying your own water though, not from the customers side but can see how it would make it quicker.
Machine off, plug in heater and pour water in tank...not ping about in and out with the bucket.

When I used ninja with my old connect, I used the water from window cleaning tank, much easier not having to ponce about with buckets in custys house....IMHO

Mr B
If in doubt.....Leave it out !!

Darren O

  • Posts: 1322
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2014, 07:14:58 pm »
Enforcer looks good but would hate to use it full time ok for the odd job or upholstery but wouldnt come close to my truckmount for power or speed.

Len Gribble

  • Posts: 5106
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #62 on: September 14, 2014, 07:24:06 pm »
Mr B

Stop trying to convince yourself sell the van & TM you know you want the enforcer, LM is another way..!!!! ;D
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #63 on: September 14, 2014, 09:03:31 pm »
What wands are you using on your enforcers ? And what sized nozzles?

Shaun

john martin

  • Posts: 2699
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #64 on: September 14, 2014, 09:53:27 pm »
What wands are you using on your enforcers ? And what sized nozzles?

Shaun

me , simple straight single jet 12 with 04 i think  , i dislike s-bend wands and prefer a higher positioned jet .

Steve Gunn

  • Posts: 850
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2014, 08:03:51 am »
Two days of using enforcer and the biggest difference is it's adding 15 to 30 minutes onto jobs filling buckets, more drying passes and putting machine away. The results I'm achieving are on par with t/m although taking longer to achieve it's not costing me £5-£6 an hour running tm so more profit. The heat is fantastic defiantly recommend getting the V2 add on  

If I had never owned a tm I wouldn't have known the difference it's just taking some getting used to, none of the customers who I've cleaned for before even mentioned I was using a different machine.

stuart_clark

  • Posts: 1879
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #66 on: September 17, 2014, 08:24:32 am »
Steve

customers couldnt care less what machine you use, as long as there carpets are clean and left relatively dry


Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #68 on: September 17, 2014, 06:07:48 pm »
I have customers that used services because of my truckmount I couldn't make a living out of that statement but it does add up.

Steve if you put a water tank in your van would it speed things up?

Shaun

stuart_clark

  • Posts: 1879
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2014, 06:55:32 pm »
The large majority of customers havent a clue what you are going to clean there carpet with and I would say 95% of them have never heard of a TM but maybe its different where I live, most carpet cleaners in the north east use portables, not all but the majority and run vrry profitable businesses


Stuart

Steve Gunn

  • Posts: 850
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2014, 07:15:18 pm »
Got auto fill but no outside tap need to get some indoor tap connectors,

Shaun new van coming in the next 2 weeks so looking at all options but to be fair I no longer run round like a headless chicken from 1 job to the next so an extra 15-30 minutes no skin off my nose.

Stuart is correct most customers aren't interested in what you use to clean their carpet as long as you get them clean

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2014, 10:23:08 pm »
I agree that most aren't bothered but some do actively look for or ask about a truckmount whether they've heard about them or had a cleaner at their last property use one, many of my customers will use my services because of it but I do sell it's benefits.

I'd still like to hear more about the enforcer, what is it that takes longer when cleaning? Is it bucket carrying or slow cleaning passes?

Shaun

stuart_clark

  • Posts: 1879
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2014, 11:36:31 pm »
This thread is starting to sound like the porty verses yhe TM theme all  over again

Steve Gunn

  • Posts: 850
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #73 on: September 18, 2014, 06:20:53 am »
I agree that most aren't bothered but some do actively look for or ask about a truckmount whether they've heard about them or had a cleaner at their last property use one, many of my customers will use my services because of it but I do sell it's benefits.

I'd still like to hear more about the enforcer, what is it that takes longer when cleaning? Is it bucket carrying or slow cleaning passes?

Shaun

It's taking slightly longer as I'm making more drying passes as I'm conscious that they expect a certain level of dryness if they have used me in the past, going to get a couple of the little dri-eaz pods as snail dryers just too big. I suppose I'll get into a rhythm quite quickly it just takes some adjusting. Did a suite yesterday and can say it was just as quick with enforcer as with the tm and it felt quite dry when I finished

Ian Gourlay

  • Posts: 5748
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #74 on: September 18, 2014, 09:49:10 am »
How many extra passes<

Would V2 heat water from outside tap enough , I only have a 2K heat exchanger , I think it was a V1 I just regard it as a heat boaster even if i wait 15 minutes for it to recirculate round tank etc but with my power brush does a good job
 I still cant understand if Enforcer is more  powerful than a Ninja

fibresafe

  • Posts: 114
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #75 on: September 18, 2014, 12:22:33 pm »
If I remember rightly, the Ninja with Ametek motors had 220" waterlift, the Enforcer with the Electro motors now has 230" waterlift, so yes the Enforcer is more powerful than the old Ninja. I think they fit the Electro motors in the Ninja now also.

Ian Gourlay

  • Posts: 5748
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2014, 03:03:45 pm »
Its marginal or does that translate into a higher increase in performance

fibresafe

  • Posts: 114
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2014, 03:40:07 pm »
The airflow's a little higher also - should be about 15CFM or so extra. Definitely an improvement on the old Ninja. More vacuum = drier carpets, it all helps!

Steve Gunn

  • Posts: 850
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2014, 03:49:16 pm »
How many extra passes<

Would V2 heat water from outside tap enough , I only have a 2K heat exchanger , I think it was a V1 I just regard it as a heat boaster even if i wait 15 minutes for it to recirculate round tank etc but with my power brush does a good job
 I still cant understand if Enforcer is more  powerful than a Ninja

Probably 3-4 which is overkill on my behalf but it's all about getting into a rhythm that suits my needs. It has 3kw built in tank as well as V2 built in so water tends to heat up using 3kw heater first while vacuuming and preparing for the clean.

Having owned a ninja in the past I personally do think the enforcer has the edge over the ninja in terms of performance all in all very pleased with the machine it suits my needs

Russ Chadd

  • Posts: 1261
Re: Enforcer
« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2014, 08:02:15 pm »
90% of the time I just use the in tank heater which provides good! constant hot water to the wand... Perfect temperature for upholstery cleaning.
Add a V2 and you get very, very hot water, the tank heater provides a steady source of hot water and the V2 simply boosts it.
I normally extract at around 250 - 300 psi steady passes and single dry passes is all that's required on most carpets.