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Smudger

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2014, 04:48:38 pm »
Thanks Tony

Hopefully the customer will give me a yes

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris scott

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2014, 06:03:08 pm »
So we have gone from 4 litres doing 2/3 roofs to 16 litres to do this one roof...Smudger be careful.
From my experience (which is sadly lacking compared to roof Tony and Kevin) you will get around 4/5 m per litre on this type of substrate.
Get yourself a tile and a sample of the product from Kev and test it yourself.
Kevin and Tony are reading labels and  guessing.
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Smudger

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2014, 06:20:14 pm »
 ??? ??? :-\ :-\ ??? ???
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Kev Martin

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2014, 06:52:40 pm »
So we have gone from 4 litres doing 2/3 roofs to 16 litres to do this one roof...Smudger be careful.
From my experience (which is sadly lacking compared to roof Tony and Kevin) you will get around 4/5 m per litre on this type of substrate.
Get yourself a tile and a sample of the product from Kev and test it yourself.
Kevin and Tony are reading labels and  guessing.

Chris

I am a bit too experienced to read labels and guess as is my son. If you understood the product you would be a little more "Au Fait" with it and you would understand that the product has been around for over 35 years a d there is a lot of Data available to us regarding coverage. Try the product first against whatever you are suggesting and then comment. It is you that is reading labels and guessing not the other way around.

Kev
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Kev Martin

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2014, 06:55:42 pm »
Thanks Tony

Hopefully the customer will give me a yes

Darran

Darran

Sorry been in hospital all day but clearly Tony my Son has answered you.

Kevin
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Smudger

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2014, 07:00:51 pm »
Cheers Kevin,

Hopefully nothing too serious I hope

Thanks again for the help

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris scott

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2014, 07:10:30 pm »
Ok assuming I am talking out of my sphincter .

Question 1 . Kevin/tony how would you suggest we apply this to the roof assuming at the worst we are aiming for 12 metres per litre (Tonys worst case scenario  figures) disregarding your initial estimation of around 75 sqm per litre ?
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Kev Martin

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2014, 02:35:29 pm »
Ok assuming I am talking out of my sphincter .

Question 1 . Kevin/tony how would you suggest we apply this to the roof assuming at the worst we are aiming for 12 metres per litre (Tonys worst case scenario  figures) disregarding your initial estimation of around 75 sqm per litre ?

Chris

Don't take my comments to heart I do value your imput but sometimes things can get very over complicated.  We are currently grinding some rough cast concrete I will put a Litre in one of our sprayers next week and see how far it goes that should be 90% accurate I think as a comparison.  What you need to remember is this stuff is made in California where you get sued for passing wind in the street so their coverage rates published are very very conservative.  Even after 9 months of selling the stuff I am still trying to work out why it goes such a long way compared to Aqua Mix ??? ??? ???

Kev Martin
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chris scott

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2014, 07:30:09 pm »
Kevin that should be a good test... I will be genuinely  interested in the results.
I don't doubt your product...but i have cleaned a few roofs and knackered concrete tiles are extremely porous. Thats why they are always covered in moss .
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JetVac Cleaning

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2014, 08:50:54 pm »
Was using pics for driveway sealers until they informed me that they actually supply smartseal with sealer and as there's one close to me I don't pay delivery which suits me fine. I also have a roof clean and sealing job which smartseal give me the lead for! What is worrying me is they offer a ten year guarantee with there roof sealers but the stuff just looks like water based rubbish like resiblock trade but charge a small fortune for it.  Don't really want to get stung by this guarantee if the sealer doesn't last! Who would be liable if it didn't?

Neil Jones

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2014, 09:44:35 pm »
Sealed A LOT of slate with less than a gallon of miracle on Wednesday. It does go quite a long way, apprehensive at first but would use it again.

Kev Martin

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2014, 10:55:17 pm »
Sealed A LOT of slate with less than a gallon of miracle on Wednesday. It does go quite a long way, apprehensive at first but would use it again.

Miracle have just launched a new website

www.miraclesealants.com

Try it as it has a coverage calculator tool on it. Dies it in sq ft but just divide by 10 and you will be ok converting to M2. Ours should be up in a couple of weeks. www.miraclesealants.co.uk

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
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Smudger

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2014, 06:22:48 am »
Thanks Neil and Kevin

Neil how did you apply it ?

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

chris scott

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2014, 07:41:27 pm »
Slates different to a knackered tile roof....you can not compare. You cannot even compare application methods.
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Neil Jones

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2014, 08:11:31 pm »
Yes I know Chris I wouldn't compare the two, IMO I wouldn't seal the roof unless they paid A LOT of money.

I applied it via roller in small sections and then went over with a microfibre cloth to wipe up the excess. Went back tonight to see how it looked after heavy rain and it looks good. Few small areas that have excess on which I'm not to happy with because I went over meticulously wiping up the excess so can't explain it.

It's on a few ridges on the tile, how can I remove these Kev?

Kev Martin

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2014, 12:21:36 am »
Yes I know Chris I wouldn't compare the two, IMO I wouldn't seal the roof unless they paid A LOT of money.

I applied it via roller in small sections and then went over with a microfibre cloth to wipe up the excess. Went back tonight to see how it looked after heavy rain and it looks good. Few small areas that have excess on which I'm not to happy with because I went over meticulously wiping up the excess so can't explain it.

It's on a few ridges on the tile, how can I remove these Kev?

No matter how well you think you removed it you left an excess so a quick spin over with a Rotary fitted with a soft to medium brush and some pH Neutral cleaner will sort it
Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Smudger

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2014, 05:12:08 am »
Sorry, when you said slate, thought you meant slate roof  :o

Darran
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Neil Jones

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2014, 01:20:46 pm »
Cheers Kev, I usually apply sealer just by microfibre cloth all by hand and never get that problem, I think it's because I used roller. Quite annoying. Will it come off easy enough?

chris scott

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2014, 07:35:07 pm »
Any "spread rate results" yet?
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chris scott

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Re: Sealing a roof... What to use..?
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2014, 07:08:39 am »
Any spread rates yet?
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www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
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