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This decking/Gazebo
« on: July 27, 2014, 06:50:15 pm »




I have got a big  job to do on a house driveway / Patio / weed gravel paths and they want me to do this Gazebo/Decking as you can see its neglected. Think its pine and its been painted with ronseal, they want a total restoration stripped back and oiled.

Im thinking quick wash down get the growth off, then treat with prep deck, then netrol, then lightly sand,then oil with colour trend. Does that sound about right this will be my biggest wood job and i want to make a really good job on it.

Any help is appreciated as always.

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2014, 06:52:29 pm »
one more pic

As you can see the gravel path has been lost to nature. :)

Smudger

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Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 07:18:14 pm »
Roger is yer man,

Whatever he recommends DO!

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2014, 07:22:12 pm »
Roger is yer man,

Whatever he recommends DO!

Darran

Yeah his work is freaking amazing im hoping he drops in.

Smudger

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Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2014, 07:24:12 pm »
I'm sure he will, gave me great advice on tackling a decking job

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2014, 08:15:37 pm »
They have just asked me to do the garden furniture as well I don't have any pics but apparently its roble wood and has been waxed with roble wax ? I havnt a clue what to do with that so might have to pass on that one, but they did say it no that bad just needs a quick clean.

Roger Oakley

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2014, 09:29:54 pm »
Jordine,

You've got your work cut out here, but this is how I would approach this,
1st can you remove all the plants weeds etc growing through the Gazebo?
2nd try to remove with a stiff brush all sh*t that is on the deck floor. You may well find some rotted boards when they get this bad. If they are in good condition then give it a pressure wash water only, see what stain (Ronseal) is left.
3rd So let's say there is some stain left then yes Prep-deck go in at 3:1 first and see what this does.
If it looks like you have removed the Ronseal, then follow-up with the Netrol, if not and this will be in the grooves mostly, re-apply the Prep-Deck but up it to 2:1 and allow a bit longer dwell time, bot do all the floor don't spot clean.
On the cladding & Gazebo remember to work from the bottom upwards when applying any chemical to avoid runs. Really pre-wet everything as this wood is going to be so dry (natural oil) and will suck up whatever you are putting on it.
4th Once you have the wood clean & stain free, you can defiantly sand the Gazebo and the floor, hopefully the grooves will be clear of Ronseal. Proflle/detail sander for the groves, random orbital for the rest of the wood. Remove raised grain and any dead fibres as there will be some when wood gets this neglected and after the above cleaning process.
Once this is all done, then re-oil.

It look's daunting but is doable, you just need to charge accordingly as there is a lot of work to do to get the right result. But if the decking boards have rotted then they will have to be replaced, no point in messing around with rotted boards.

Re the Roble Wood, it's a very dense hardwood (Bolivian) so a lot like Ipe. It should look a nice warm honey colour, you can clean it like Teak, a photo would be helpful.
I have some photos of Roble we have done somewhere, I'll try to put them up later.

Good Luck


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Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2014, 09:35:08 pm »
Roger , you said word for word what i was going to say  ;D

Hope you are all busy

Ed
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Roger Oakley

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2014, 09:37:05 pm »
Roger , you said word for word what i was going to say  ;D

Hope you are all busy

Ed

Now booking into November, so yes a little bit busy  ;)

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2014, 09:48:04 pm »
Jordine,

You've got your work cut out here, but this is how I would approach this,
1st can you remove all the plants weeds etc growing through the Gazebo?
2nd try to remove with a stiff brush all sh*t that is on the deck floor. You may well find some rotted boards when they get this bad. If they are in good condition then give it a pressure wash water only, see what stain (Ronseal) is left.
3rd So let's say there is some stain left then yes Prep-deck go in at 3:1 first and see what this does.
If it looks like you have removed the Ronseal, then follow-up with the Netrol, if not and this will be in the grooves mostly, re-apply the Prep-Deck but up it to 2:1 and allow a bit longer dwell time, bot do all the floor don't spot clean.
On the cladding & Gazebo remember to work from the bottom upwards when applying any chemical to avoid runs. Really pre-wet everything as this wood is going to be so dry (natural oil) and will suck up whatever you are putting on it.
4th Once you have the wood clean & stain free, you can defiantly sand the Gazebo and the floor, hopefully the grooves will be clear of Ronseal. Proflle/detail sander for the groves, random orbital for the rest of the wood. Remove raised grain and any dead fibres as there will be some when wood gets this neglected and after the above cleaning process.
Once this is all done, then re-oil.

It look's daunting but is doable, you just need to charge accordingly as there is a lot of work to do to get the right result. But if the decking boards have rotted then they will have to be replaced, no point in messing around with rotted boards.

Re the Roble Wood, it's a very dense hardwood (Bolivian) so a lot like Ipe. It should look a nice warm honey colour, you can clean it like Teak, a photo would be helpful.
I have some photos of Roble we have done somewhere, I'll try to put them up later.

Good Luck




Thanks Roger I appreciate that Ill put some pics up when Ive done it, I will get some pics of the roble wood its just the garden table that they want cleaning, she said it had only been waxed can you just give it a careful pressure wash and re-wax

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2014, 10:29:40 pm »
Roger will one litre of prepdeck and one litre of netrol ne enough ?
 

Roger Oakley

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 06:37:10 am »
Without knowing the size of area you have there can't say, but from the photos then No.

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2014, 05:09:59 pm »
I remember you recommending colourtend oil to someone before but i cant find the stuff any ware ??? 

Roger Oakley

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 12:15:37 am »
I remember you recommending colourtend oil to someone before but i cant find the stuff any ware ??? 
Drop me an email and I'll send to details of where to get it from.

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2014, 10:32:45 pm »
Roger Ive got about 95% of the stain off the decking had to use the prep deck neat and it still wasn't shifting it easy so im going to sand the last few bits off. Is there any other way or any thing else to try getting the stain off the uprights and the fenced bits because there going to take  ages plus the prepdeck is running low because im having to use it neat.


Cheers Justin

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2014, 10:41:10 pm »
Picture of that  Roble Wood table that I mentioned

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2014, 10:44:22 pm »

Roger Oakley

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2014, 06:48:52 am »
Roger Ive got about 95% of the stain off the decking had to use the prep deck neat and it still wasn't shifting it easy so im going to sand the last few bits off. Is there any other way or any thing else to try getting the stain off the uprights and the fenced bits because there going to take  ages plus the prepdeck is running low because im having to use it neat.


Cheers Justin

Owatrol do a product called Dilunett it is more of a gel & stronger then the Prep-Deck but darkens the wood if you leave it on to long so you really have to use Net-Trol neat to brighten. you could always sand the uprights, 60 grit paper.
The Dilunett really burns so wear proper PPE if you go that route.

Re the Roble furniture, clean with Net-Trol mixed down to 3:1 then either re-oil or re-wax, the middle section (extension) is nearly always going to look different to the rest as it has been closed at some point and doesn't look as weathered as the rest.

Re: This decking/Gazebo
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2014, 10:30:48 am »
Cheers roger appreciate that.