Hi Guys, not trying to put a damper on things here just to err on the side of caution as we have seen many surfaces with detrimental damage caused by G101 as its a high alkaline based harsh chemical and contains a very high pH value one of the highest you will come across, I would recommend never to use this harsh product neat on any of your clients UPVC surfaces because if it dries in it will cause detrimental damage to many hard surfaces, again I am just sharing from my own experiences over the years and seeing first hand the damage it can cause if its not used with extreme caution, hope this info can be of benefit to some as I know people who have used it wrongly and it ended up costing them.
Any news on your test results, Tadgh.
I've been doing a little experiment with TFR and UPVC myself for the last 3 months.
Up to this point, as far as I can tell, TFR does absolutely no damage to UPVC whatsoever. Undiluted.
I would be interested to hear if your experiments prove otherwise.
At the moment though-I don't think you're right to say TFR damages UPVC.
I can't speak for G101 though.
Perhaps that'll be the next test.
Hi Darren, i have plenty of information but just cant seem to find the time to put it all together, when i do i will send it on to you, on the TFR Darren are you saying that if it used neat on UPVC surfaces it does no damage if that is the case i will stand over saying it will damage UPVC if used neat.
But do you have any proof though?
I have evidence that it does no harm.
Hi Darren, trust me after being in the industry for over 30 years yes i have plenty of proof that high alkaline based harsh chemicals cause detrimental damage to surfaces from continuous use, i think if you read back on some of my posts i have been honest in putting up my hand and admitting that i caused damage to some of my clients surfaces over the years while using high alkaline based chemicals, i was always happy to share my experiences in the hope that it would be of benefit to others and especially for the newer guys coming into our industry, as for any further discussions on these harsh chemicals i think i have said enough and will leave it there, as for the info which i will compile in a slide show and send it on to you when finished. Regards Tadgh
Not knocking you, Tadgh, I'm sure you have then best intentions.
All I'm saying is, do you have any proof now. Any pictures etc.
I mean no offence at all but you've been saying what you're saying about TFR in particular for well over a year, maybe more but you've not posted any pictures to back up your claim.
I've been using TFR for over 10 years, admittedly not as long as your 30 years, but to my knowledge have done no damage because of it.
I'm still doing my experiment.
I'll post my pictures whenever, it's been going months.
But I am genuinely interested to see any photo's you've got showing damage from, specifically TFR ('cause I use it), but I'm sure the forum would benefit from evidence on G101 & Virosol 'cause that seems be of common use.