[Steve H]

Hi Chaps
Im being asked more and more to clean the fascia boards and gutters, which isn't a bad thing for sure.
However, last week I cleaned a house (fascia boards & gutters) and conservatory, which was a right mess, it took a while to clean to say the least, full of dirt and green moss etc...

2 questions are this:

- Firstly, which is the best stuff to spray on the fascia boards / conservatory roofs etc. which may help get it off more easily (quicker!!!)
I have heard virosol but then have heard that you don't want this splashing on the glass as it stains if it dries out on the glass?

-secondly, the best brush head for fascia boards, as I often use a sill brush and find it is okay but still cant get between the small gap between the under side of the gutter and the fascia boards, if its proper dirty you cant leave this area underneath, as it looks a mess obviously. I wondered if people tend to climb up and clean this area by hand first....

Anyway, any hints and tips would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Steve

[Phil J]

Hey Steve,
Virosol works really well, if you get  any on the glass just rinse off, never had a problem myself. As for the dirt above the gutter line on the fascia, change the angle of your brush and try to work it into the gaps. If that doesn't work unfortunately you will have to climb the ladder and clean by hand.
Good luck pal, cheers, Phil 

[Steve H]

Hi Phil,
I will give it a try as a lot of people seem to use it...
Thanks

[robert mitchell]

i find g101 makes it really easy .

[Smudger]

G101 is better than virosol, ubik, TFR, IME

Best brush Ariel hogs hair just rips through the dirt

Darran

[Steve H]

Hi fellas,
Do you water the g101 down and spray it on and leave it for a bit to do its thing? best place to get it from?
Thanks in advance
Steve

[dazmond]

virosol in a strong concentration mixed with water in 5l pressure sprayer or backpack

stiff gardiner sill brush with adjustable angle adaptor
 
 virosol drying on the windows? ive never had a problem on the odd occasion it has.easily washes off with pure.

this is all i use steve.i find the sill brushes get under the gutters just fine when you adjust the angle!

i did a conny roof and f/s/g this morning.came up great and the customer was well happy.

[Dave Willis]

G101 for me and a sill brush normally does a passable job. Never looks that special if you climb up for a good look though. Usually wipe down afterwards with an applicator on a pole to take the drips off. Watch out for red sill brushes leaving bristles jammed in the brackets - spot them a mile off.

[Bungle]

G101 for me and a sill brush normally does a passable job. Never looks that special if you climb up for a good look though. Usually wipe down afterwards with an applicator on a pole to take the drips off. Watch out for red sill brushes leaving bristles jammed in the brackets - spot them a mile off.

Looks good, yeah?



Not really, but the custy ain't got a trained eye like us 

[Smudger]

Don't mind Dave he's suffering sunstroke..😄

We use g101 diluted to 20%.  Only buy 101 branded by autosmart I've tried others and they are usually  a watered down version.

Hand sprayer as above, or for larger jobs and heavily soiled we pump through a backpack and agitate as we apply, dirt lifts instantly.


Darran

[Steve H]

thanks for replies fellas, again some good info there, will give both a go and see what I feel comes out best. I have filthy connie roof to do in the next week or so and the gutters at the front of the house are the same, that will be an ideal time to give it a try.
Cheers

[Tadgh O Shea]

Hi Guys, not trying to put a damper on things here just to err on the side of caution as we have seen many surfaces with detrimental damage caused by G101 as its a high alkaline based harsh chemical and contains a very high pH value one of the highest you will come across, I would recommend never to use this harsh product neat on any of your clients UPVC surfaces because if it dries in it will cause detrimental damage to many hard surfaces, again I am just sharing from my own experiences over the years and seeing first hand the damage it can cause if its not used with extreme caution, hope this info can be of benefit to some as I know people who have used it wrongly and it ended up costing them.

[robert mitchell]

nobody suggested using it neat , i have never had a problem with it .

[PoleKing]

Hi Guys, not trying to put a damper on things here just to err on the side of caution as we have seen many surfaces with detrimental damage caused by G101 as its a high alkaline based harsh chemical and contains a very high pH value one of the highest you will come across, I would recommend never to use this harsh product neat on any of your clients UPVC surfaces because if it dries in it will cause detrimental damage to many hard surfaces, again I am just sharing from my own experiences over the years and seeing first hand the damage it can cause if its not used with extreme caution, hope this info can be of benefit to some as I know people who have used it wrongly and it ended up costing them.

Any news on your test results, Tadgh.
I've been doing a little experiment with TFR and UPVC myself for the last 3 months.
Up to this point, as far as I can tell, TFR does absolutely no damage to UPVC whatsoever. Undiluted.
I would be interested to hear if your experiments prove otherwise.
At the moment though-I don't think you're right to say TFR damages UPVC.
I can't speak for G101 though.
Perhaps that'll be the next test.

[Elfyn]

Steve H. I could telly you the best way to clean them and what chems to use, but, on past experience, it would probably be deleted by the moderators. 

[windymiller]

I use swarfega pvc cleaner from b and q, does the job for me

[Tadgh O Shea]

nobody suggested using it neat , i have never had a problem with it .

Hi Robert, i know you did not suggest using it neat, but as you know there are many new guys come on here for advice and that is why i was sharing about using it neat and allowing it to dry into surfaces as this can turn out to be a costly mistake.

[Tadgh O Shea]

Hi Guys, not trying to put a damper on things here just to err on the side of caution as we have seen many surfaces with detrimental damage caused by G101 as its a high alkaline based harsh chemical and contains a very high pH value one of the highest you will come across, I would recommend never to use this harsh product neat on any of your clients UPVC surfaces because if it dries in it will cause detrimental damage to many hard surfaces, again I am just sharing from my own experiences over the years and seeing first hand the damage it can cause if its not used with extreme caution, hope this info can be of benefit to some as I know people who have used it wrongly and it ended up costing them.

Any news on your test results, Tadgh.
I've been doing a little experiment with TFR and UPVC myself for the last 3 months.
Up to this point, as far as I can tell, TFR does absolutely no damage to UPVC whatsoever. Undiluted.
I would be interested to hear if your experiments prove otherwise.
At the moment though-I don't think you're right to say TFR damages UPVC.
I can't speak for G101 though.
Perhaps that'll be the next test.

Hi Darren, i have plenty of information but just cant seem to find the time to put it all together, when i do i will send it on to you, on the TFR Darren are you saying that if it used neat on UPVC surfaces it does no damage if that is the case i will stand over saying it will damage UPVC if used neat.

[PoleKing]

Hi Guys, not trying to put a damper on things here just to err on the side of caution as we have seen many surfaces with detrimental damage caused by G101 as its a high alkaline based harsh chemical and contains a very high pH value one of the highest you will come across, I would recommend never to use this harsh product neat on any of your clients UPVC surfaces because if it dries in it will cause detrimental damage to many hard surfaces, again I am just sharing from my own experiences over the years and seeing first hand the damage it can cause if its not used with extreme caution, hope this info can be of benefit to some as I know people who have used it wrongly and it ended up costing them.

Any news on your test results, Tadgh.
I've been doing a little experiment with TFR and UPVC myself for the last 3 months.
Up to this point, as far as I can tell, TFR does absolutely no damage to UPVC whatsoever. Undiluted.
I would be interested to hear if your experiments prove otherwise.
At the moment though-I don't think you're right to say TFR damages UPVC.
I can't speak for G101 though.
Perhaps that'll be the next test.

Hi Darren, i have plenty of information but just cant seem to find the time to put it all together, when i do i will send it on to you, on the TFR Darren are you saying that if it used neat on UPVC surfaces it does no damage if that is the case i will stand over saying it will damage UPVC if used neat.

But do you have any proof though?
I have evidence that it does no harm.

[Tadgh O Shea]

Hi Guys, not trying to put a damper on things here just to err on the side of caution as we have seen many surfaces with detrimental damage caused by G101 as its a high alkaline based harsh chemical and contains a very high pH value one of the highest you will come across, I would recommend never to use this harsh product neat on any of your clients UPVC surfaces because if it dries in it will cause detrimental damage to many hard surfaces, again I am just sharing from my own experiences over the years and seeing first hand the damage it can cause if its not used with extreme caution, hope this info can be of benefit to some as I know people who have used it wrongly and it ended up costing them.

Any news on your test results, Tadgh.
I've been doing a little experiment with TFR and UPVC myself for the last 3 months.
Up to this point, as far as I can tell, TFR does absolutely no damage to UPVC whatsoever. Undiluted.
I would be interested to hear if your experiments prove otherwise.
At the moment though-I don't think you're right to say TFR damages UPVC.
I can't speak for G101 though.
Perhaps that'll be the next test.

Hi Darren, i have plenty of information but just cant seem to find the time to put it all together, when i do i will send it on to you, on the TFR Darren are you saying that if it used neat on UPVC surfaces it does no damage if that is the case i will stand over saying it will damage UPVC if used neat.

But do you have any proof though?
I have evidence that it does no harm.

Hi Darren, trust me after being in the industry for over 30 years yes i have plenty of proof that high alkaline based harsh chemicals cause detrimental damage to surfaces from continuous use, i think if you read back on some of my posts i have been honest in putting up my hand and admitting that i caused damage to some of my clients surfaces over the years while using high alkaline based chemicals, i was always happy to share my experiences in the hope that it would be of benefit to others and especially for the newer guys coming into our industry, as for any further discussions on these harsh chemicals i think i have said enough and will leave it there, as for the info which i will compile in a slide show and send it on to you when finished.     Regards  Tadgh