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stuart_clark

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2014, 06:39:28 pm »
Took delivery of my shear dry today and cleaned my first suit with it this afternoon, I see how folk would say its down to the fine tuning but its very similar to the saphire, it took me ages to master mine, I used to use loads of water in the early days!  This hand tool appears to clean a lot easier but I think that is down to the two loops of continuous solution but time will tell !
Personaly I dont think the Quality of the overall tool is as good as the Saphire ( Sorry Chris )
But again time will tell if it lasts, I was a bit disapointed it didn't come with a 2inch conector but the inch and a half so I will a whip or converter
ive got four three piece suites to clean next week so it will get quite a bit of use


Stuart

Kev Loomes

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2014, 08:18:26 pm »
No need to get a converter surely.

If the tool fits an inch and a half i.e. the machine hose cuff goes over the tool, then the tool hose itself should fit the 2 inch machine hose directly - by going inside it.

The pic at the link shows the hose. The end of it will go over the inch and a half cuff - or inside a 2 inch cuff. http://www.reliance-supplies.co.uk/ekmps/shops/abracadabra1/images/prochem-sapphire-upholstery-pro-hand-tool-628-p.jpg

Thats what I do anyway with the saphire - surely its the same?

Russ Chadd

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2014, 09:21:52 pm »
To answer the question about what PSI to use... This tool does not rely on pressure to rinse like a regular jetted tool.
I have used mine on my little Sensai machine and that has a 150 psi pump fitted... You will never use this tool with the inline valve open more than half a turn.

Brendan (chem2clean)

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2014, 09:40:04 pm »
What are these tools like on something like office partitions?For those that have cleaned with the rotovac and sapphaire ,which is the best tool?

stuart_clark

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2014, 01:23:09 am »
Kev
The Saphire just goes over the 2inch hose but the Rotavac unfortunately does not


Stuart

Russ Chadd

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2014, 08:49:59 am »
I doubt the 1.5" hose makes any difference at all, even with my smallest porty I have to open the vac relief or I get lock down and the tool becomes difficult to move.

stuart_clark

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2014, 09:57:03 am »
Rus

it probably dosent make any difference at all as for performance is concerned , its just a bit inconvenient as I use 2 inch hose, ive managed to get a steel converter tube now from woodbridge

stuart_clark

  • Posts: 1879
Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2014, 07:52:59 pm »
I've cleaned four suites with my new tool now , its definately the best tool in my arsenal, 
and belive me I have a few, it cleans much better than any other as well leaving the material much drierthan anything iI've previously used

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2014, 04:22:11 pm »
Anyone got a Sapphire and a Shear Dry?
Would be interested in comparisons.

Simon

stuart_clark

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2014, 05:18:23 pm »
Simon
I have a Saphire, I've had it nearly four years and yes it did take some time to get used to it, I used a hell of a lot of water in the early days, the sheardry is very similar but cleans much faster, the only problem at the mo, it spits a bit through two forward and two rear jets, Chris is trying to get the problem rectified
With rotavac, but I am very glad that I bought it, ive had it four days now and have cleaned six suites, cant see me going back to the Saphire in a hurry


Stuart

p s I also have 2 Drimasters and a cfr but the Rotavac is the Dogs Doolys

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2014, 08:28:29 pm »
Hi Stuart,
So when is this spitting problem going to be fixed, is it a manufacturing issue?
It looks wider than the Sapphire, is that right?

Simon

adrian marsh

Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2014, 07:37:09 am »
Stuart. As you know I've only had my Shear Dry for a couple of weeks, but I've not encountered this "spitting" problem. Could it be too high a flow rate?

Robin Ray

Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2014, 01:19:28 pm »
Not saying its not possible but I cant see how the sheardry can be significantly quicker than the sapphire as they both clean on the forward an back strokes. The only real difference i can see is some of the jets point forwards and some back but that shouldn't matter as they both have forward and back vac slots. How is it that much quicker?

The sapphire also spits but thats what the flow adjuster is for. It works really well but probably only needs about 50psi.

Andrew@Approved Carpet Cleaning

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2014, 08:07:23 am »
I think Russ has done a temporary mod using a slither of sponge to stop the spitting. I know it's not a permanent fix but seems to help. Takes about a minute to do.
Andrew
Approved Carpet Cleaning of Flitwick
www.carpetcleaningbedfordshire.co.uk

Andrew@Approved Carpet Cleaning

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Andrew
Approved Carpet Cleaning of Flitwick
www.carpetcleaningbedfordshire.co.uk

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2014, 03:26:13 pm »
You'd think they'd have picked up on that design flaw at the prototype stage?
Was going to order one just for comparison purposes with the sapphire, but might as well wait to they fix the issue.

Simon

stuart_clark

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2014, 08:12:06 pm »
Imo the Rotavac is a better tool than the saphire even with the spitting probem, I've cleaned eight suites with it since I took delivery of it last thursday ! I cant see me reaching for the saphire in a hurry
The solution stays much hotter with the rotavac and seems to clean better than the saphire, I've had my saphire nearly four years and its had a hell of a kot of use but imo its not as good as the new tool
and to be honest the spitting hasn't made any difference to the end result



Stuart

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2014, 08:41:59 pm »
Surely the only way of it staying hotter is through it using more water?

Simon

stuart_clark

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2014, 09:08:15 pm »
The heat comes through almost straight away, where as the saphire needs to be on constent and that uses all your water !

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Shear Dry (Rotovac)
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2014, 09:24:00 pm »
If the heat comes through straight away then that is the result of flow and it is flow that eats your water. We use a 125 live hose reel on the TM and the sapphire is fizzing hot in trigger mode.
I also struggle when people say x tool cleans better, even though it is being compared to something almost identical. The truth is, any tool is only flushing out pre-loosened soil and so it is the quality, agitation, dwell time of your prespray that dictates how clean the fabric gets. It doesn't matter what tool you're using, if the prespray hasn't loosened the soil efficiently then you ain't going to get it as clean as you would otherwise.
What has change with upholstery tools over the years is jetless technology and lightweight which equals much greater ease of use, but if don't think they have provided a quantum leap in quality, the latest generation of chemicals have done that.

Simon