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S.A.J

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2014, 04:20:17 pm »
We have no issues but we use the carbon goosenecks!

But here is what Mark M done http://youtu.be/ibKoVBS-xtM

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2014, 04:22:39 pm »
Even after a little sanding and assembling with silicone grease the old quick loc can be difficult to get apart, I personally find them a pain so I'm trialling the goosenecks from aquadaptor with the slot in where it's un clamped you can simply pull the top arm and brush head out and slot in a different one working really well and I've modified some gardiner ones so I no longer have to fight the quick loc

Darran

Hi Darran

You shouldn't need to do any sanding or greasing  :( The Quick-LoQ system has been around for over a year now with about 10,000 units in use so far - if there is a jamming or sticking part let us know and we can sort it out.

Drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk and let me know which parts are giving you trouble and we can get this sorted for you.

out a replacement item.

Smudger

  • Posts: 13438
Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2014, 04:43:57 pm »
Thanks Alex - i don't think it's really a faulty parts issue, I think over time they 'ring' together, get dirt inside which just makes it hard to pull apart, I might just be kack handed as you seem to need three hands to push in the little numpty and pull the brush, once started they do come off easily, same when changing back over where the brush has only been on for an hour or so.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

kempy

  • Posts: 1442
Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2014, 04:52:03 pm »
It's my Carbon quik Loq neck I've broken .
Twice now it's snapped on the bend .
So buying my third one now and bits £62 , chuffing weak carbon on the bend .
If I break another I will change my entire pole , neck and brush set up .

I love them , but can't afford to buy this many quik Loq carbon necks at £50 a go
Too weak , but I do like them .

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2014, 04:53:58 pm »
Thanks Alex - i don't think it's really a faulty parts issue, I think over time they 'ring' together, get dirt inside which just makes it hard to pull apart, I might just be kack handed as you seem to need three hands to push in the little numpty and pull the brush, once started they do come off easily, same when changing back over where the brush has only been on for an hour or so.

Darran

I think that if the combination of tolerances are incorrect then dirt can affect them over time. However we have worked hard on more recent production runs to ensure that the tolerances are better so that even dirt will not affect them. We have even had to start moulding certain parts only in the winter or summer as this can affect the shrinkage rates of certain plastics.

I think that the tolerances that we have now are working well even with use and dirt. Drop me an email and we can swap your Quick-LoQ parts for you.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2014, 04:55:13 pm »
It's my Carbon quik Loq neck I've broken .
Twice now it's snapped on the bend .
So buying my third one now and bits £62 , chuffing weak carbon on the bend .
If I break another I will change my entire pole , neck and brush set up .

I love them , but can't afford to buy this many quik Loq carbon necks at £50 a go
Too weak , but I do like them .

HI Kempy

Did you contact our customer services department about this break? Drop us some photos, the purchase date and how it happened and we can look at whether it would be a warranty replacement item.

johnny bravo

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2014, 05:44:57 pm »
Mine went like that after a couple of months,    you just have to leave them on and just change the lot in one go, i got sick of trying , give yourself an injury.      it must be all the pressure put on brush head while cleaning the windows at height.
cant be cured once it happens.
 ??? its maddening when you see Sir Alex on video doing it so easily and quickly,     you can do it for a while when new and not used much

Smudger

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2014, 06:04:14 pm »
Honestly Alex, it's not a real issue mainly because I'm not a great fan of the brush set at 90 degrees I much prefer the angled socket which only comes with a thread because this gives a slimmer profile when getting through railings and some tight spaces we clean.

If you were to make an angled quick loc I'd be there buying a couple of dozen 😃

I sympathise regarding the manufacturing, I spent many years making plastic extrusion machines and later running a moulding line and trying to hold limits of 0.005mm was a nightmare!

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2014, 06:14:51 pm »
Mine went like that after a couple of months,    you just have to leave them on and just change the lot in one go, i got sick of trying , give yourself an injury.      it must be all the pressure put on brush head while cleaning the windows at height.
cant be cured once it happens.
 ??? its maddening when you see Sir Alex on video doing it so easily and quickly,     you can do it for a while when new and not used much

Hi Johnny

The tolerance on yours will probably be a little tight as they should stay smooth even after use and the presence of dirt. Drop me a line and I can let you have a replacement  brush socket.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2014, 06:20:47 pm »
Honestly Alex, it's not a real issue mainly because I'm not a great fan of the brush set at 90 degrees I much prefer the angled socket which only comes with a thread because this gives a slimmer profile when getting through railings and some tight spaces we clean.

If you were to make an angled quick loc I'd be there buying a couple of dozen 😃

I sympathise regarding the manufacturing, I spent many years making plastic extrusion machines and later running a moulding line and trying to hold limits of 0.005mm was a nightmare!

Darran

I will take on board your product suggestion - Angled QuicK-LoC socket......

Smudger

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2014, 06:28:44 pm »
Thx Alex

😎👍

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2014, 06:44:27 pm »
Hi Alex would this be possible for me As well?

I have quite a few sockets and resi necks and they just will not work together? Some of them I cannot even get them to click into place.

Some you will see I have tried sanding but have failed.

If it's a yes. Gimme a couple of days and I will post them
Back as it was on the verge of dropping quick loq and going to that new aqua
Dapter system (boooo) lol

Alex Gardiner

  • Posts: 7742
Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2014, 06:48:18 pm »
Hi Alex would this be possible for me As well?

I have quite a few sockets and resi necks and they just will not work together? Some of them I cannot even get them to click into place.

Some you will see I have tried sanding but have failed.

If it's a yes. Gimme a couple of days and I will post them
Back as it was on the verge of dropping quick loq and going to that new aqua
Dapter system (boooo) lol

These sound Duff - somethings not right. Let me know what you have via email and I can sort it for you.

Clever Forum Name

  • Posts: 5942
Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2014, 07:24:51 pm »
Hi Alex would this be possible for me As well?

I have quite a few sockets and resi necks and they just will not work together? Some of them I cannot even get them to click into place.

Some you will see I have tried sanding but have failed.

If it's a yes. Gimme a couple of days and I will post them
Back as it was on the verge of dropping quick loq and going to that new aqua
Dapter system (boooo) lol

These sound Duff - somethings not right. Let me know what you have via email and I can sort it for you.

Will do Alex, when swapping over vans and putting another van on the road. I then noticed the issue :( You know me i aint the sort of chap to come on here and moan and bitch about issues. But as a thread already existed i thought hey why not :)

kempy

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2014, 07:40:00 pm »
I've had 2 break
The first the pole fell over - so no complaints .
2nd time it just glazed the corner of a wall of a property as I was going around the back .
Then 2 mins later it just flopped .
Again broke in the same place

The bend on the carbon neck needs more carbon thickness to strengthen it , did the extra weight , needs durability

I'll post it to you when get time
I've ordered another , be my last if this happens as easily as that again .
Shame as there great 

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2014, 07:44:08 pm »
I've had 2 break
The first the pole fell over - so no complaints .
2nd time it just glazed the corner of a wall of a property as I was going around the back .
Then 2 mins later it just flopped .
Again broke in the same place

The bend on the carbon neck needs more carbon thickness to strengthen it , did the extra weight , needs durability

I'll post it to you when get time
I've ordered another , be my last if this happens as easily as that again .
Shame as there great 

Hi Kempy

Doesn't sound like the 2nd one should have broken. Could you send me a photo of the break for warranty purposes. We can then replace it or refund you the cost of the replacement you have just ordered.

windowswashed

  • Posts: 2577
Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2014, 08:27:19 pm »
The plastic goosenecks are a much tighter fit than the carbon ones,....very noticeable difference in size of fitment

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2014, 10:54:20 pm »
Technique!!
Once you master the 'two thumb' push technique all your quick loc problems disappear!
Dont just pull twist and rive at them, use the 'two thumb' method. works evertime with no fuss!
Give it a try. (Its all about friction)
 

kempy

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Re: Quick loc issues
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2014, 11:53:50 pm »
I've never had the release problem , been perfect