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Carpet Dawg

  • Posts: 2968
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2014, 06:45:32 pm »
Can't really see why you would need an 800 psi pump on a electric machine tbh.
Also a good friend of mine bought a new all signing, all dancing Airflex and sold it a week later saying it was crap, he then bought an Enforcer.

Simon

Simon, if you've been told its crap then why make a post asking which you should buy?  :-\

In terms of price. You can leave out the auto pump out and remote unit thus making quite a nice saving. A few hundred quids if i remember correctly (this is what i did). And if you go for a smaller pump i.e. 800psi down to a 500psi, 400psi or a 200psi, then again you get another saving! In fact if you really wanted to save money, don't get a wand and hoses with the machine. If you have any spare kicking about that is.

If you want the same vac set up as an enforcer, then opt for the Custom Made. And choose between series over parallel and get an magma heater fitted.

You really cant go wrong with the service at cleansmart (that's my experience anyway).

Tim
I have used 100ft a few times (50ft + 50ft 2 inch hoses) and the suction and drying times were still very good. But I usually only need 50ft or 25ft as I bring the machine to the door or the hall way depending on what the situation dictates.

steve prince

  • Posts: 240
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2014, 07:28:09 pm »
Should be next week mate I CANT WAIT  ;D

Simon Gerrard

  • Posts: 4405
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2014, 07:50:30 pm »
I asked the question because I had been told it was crap, but that was only one opinion and sought more, simples :D

*Hector*

  • Posts: 9268
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2014, 07:56:22 pm »
careful Simon.... you don't want to crowd your poor brain with lots of data do you??

 ;D ;D
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

Mike Gwilliam

  • Posts: 1343
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2014, 08:02:01 pm »
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And if you go for a smaller pump i.e. 800psi down to a 500psi, 400psi

All the above use the Pumptec 205v pump, all the way from 800 to 400 psi. The difference in psi depends on what motor is used. Using this type of pump head at higher psi's will cause the piston and seals to wear out quicker or shorten it's lifetime. Also using hot water from the tank will also make the seals and piston wear quicker..

Carpet Dawg

  • Posts: 2968
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2014, 08:15:28 pm »
Matt told me if i had anything less than a 800psi then it would be cheaper. I presume they'd fit the right pump head with the correct motor.

Chris R

  • Posts: 813
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2014, 08:33:15 pm »
I have the storm. It's the  best portable I have ever used in 30 years of cleaning carpets.
My main machine is a truck mount, but I am happy to run 150 ft of 2inch vac pipe off the storm, it really is amazing the power of the vacs!
I would NEVER buy a machine from ashbys? The customer service is terrible and they just rip people off at every opportunity. Just search this forum and see the reviews of ashbys.

Do ashbys still make you take a new machine back for a service after 6 months or they void the rest of the years warranty??

Enforcer looks good, but ashbys sell it !
Beware!
Staffordshire

Andrew@Approved Carpet Cleaning

  • Posts: 178
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2014, 09:16:58 pm »
On my second airflex, not a storm but pro600. They are so easy to work on, build quality is superb, and the customers love the colour for some reason! Would I have another? Without a doubt but then again, I haven't used an enforcer to compare. Steve and Russ have had both and they rate the enforcer over the two. So maybe they are the best ones to ask.
Andrew
Approved Carpet Cleaning of Flitwick
www.carpetcleaningbedfordshire.co.uk

CleanerCarpets

  • Posts: 1292
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2014, 09:29:05 pm »
Also a good friend of mine bought a new all signing, all dancing Airflex and sold it a week later saying it was crap, he then bought an Enforcer.

Simon

Simon, your posts baffle me sometimes, how on Earth could you infer that a machine like the Airflex is 'crap'!??

You just make a mockery of yourself and make yourself look stupid

Whether someone likes the Airflex over the Enforcer or vice versa, thats down to preference on use, motors, van set up, way of working etc etc, but to say either is crap is laughable. They are both industry leading machines.

If i was you i would stick with your God Almighty Truck Mount and charging people for attempting to remove wood stains   ;)


Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2014, 10:11:56 pm »
Which truck mount you getting Steve ?

Shaun

Chris waters

  • Posts: 38
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2014, 08:34:12 am »
For me the storm has everything I want in a porty power,reliability and looks good too I've run 100 ft of hose with no problem . And the service from cleansmart is very good.

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2014, 02:45:27 pm »
What configuration of vacs does everyone have on their enforcers? I think John prefers the 5.7 electros?

Shaun

John Kelly

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Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2014, 04:45:10 pm »
To be fair to Simon, I know who he is talking about and they were his exact words.

Personally I think the Airflex is a great machine and sold 2 last week to Extracta guys who thought their machines were the bees knees.

Richard Cole

  • Posts: 783
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2014, 05:46:06 pm »
Are you a distributor for Airflex now John?
former carpet cleaner, now retired!

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2014, 07:37:02 pm »
I borrowed an Enforcer with twin 7.2 vacs from my mate today and did a few carpets at home.
I used 75 feet of 2 inch hose and a Prochem quad jet wand with a glide on it. It did a more than acceptable job on the carpets but I'm disappointed with the drying times, but that may be down to the choice of wand and the flow rate.
I like the build quality and the internal heater which is a lot better than having to faff about with the inline type. I also like the big tanks. Not as impressed with the vac performance as I thought I would be given the size of the vacs, but a really good machine none-the-less.
Anyone got an Airflex I test?

Simon

john martin

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Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2014, 08:07:11 pm »
I borrowed an Enforcer with twin 7.2 vacs from my mate today and did a few carpets at home.
I used 75 feet of 2 inch hose and a Prochem quad jet wand with a glide on it. It did a more than acceptable job on the carpets but I'm disappointed with the drying times, but that may be down to the choice of wand and the flow rate.
I like the build quality and the internal heater which is a lot better than having to faff about with the inline type. I also like the big tanks. Not as impressed with the vac performance as I thought I would be given the size of the vacs, but a really good machine none-the-less.
Anyone got an Airflex I test?

Simon

Most of the good performance reviews are based on it using the electro motors ...

Ashbys state on the site that that is their most powerfull option .
 The guy went with 7.2s because he had a 600psi pump ? 

http://www.carpet-cleaning-equipment.co.uk/enforcer-carpet-cleaning-machine-400-psi-3-stage-57-standard-3-stage-57-heavy-duty-vac-system-p-1282.html

Or in my case i ditched the 1200w electro of another 1600w which is what i would advise others to do .

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2014, 08:11:27 pm »
So 2 x 1600 electros and a 400psi pump?

Simon what psi were you using?

I was very interested to hear Alun was getting drying times of an hour with his set up if memory services me right he used to have a truck mount I wonder which model he had?

Shaun

John Kelly

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Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2014, 08:15:35 pm »
Yes we sell the Airflex. Proving very popular locally.

Simon Gerrard

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John Kelly

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Re: Airflex Storm or Enforcer
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2014, 08:24:42 pm »
Thats normal in these humidities. Your're just spoilt using the beast every day.