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Carl2009

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Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« on: June 30, 2014, 03:56:38 pm »
I'm thinking about upgrading my reel - it's the usual tubular steel one that Pure Freedom sell. I'm considering the Koreel Hi Vis 100: http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/hi-vis-100-100m-hose-reel-high-visibility-fitting-kit.html

I currently connect my reel with a 4' length of pipe with a make hozelock into the van port and a female hozelock onto the reel's male fitting.

On the Gardiner site it says the Koreel has a 1/2" female inlet and outlet. Do I assume that's 1/2" BSP and therefore on inlet (i.e.to connect to van via hozelock connectors) I'd need:
http://www.cityirrigation.co.uk/acatalog/Brass-Male-Adaptor-1-2-MBSP-MClick-CLMA020.html?gclid=CjkKEQjwlcSdBRD3wva3-KOAo80BEiQAjNIhiWpcAbLadosQR-uADHHyLEuIadQbWKbfLEvyE1grbGbw_wcB

On outlet (i.e. the bit that connects to my minibore, hidden on the inside of the reel) I'd need: http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/nylon-male-screw-to-1-2-inch-barb-elbows.html

Is this how you have your reel set up? If not can you let me know what you have/links.

Are there any alternatives to this Koreel that people have found reliable, ideally sub £250 if possible?

Cheers
Carl

Carl2009

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 10:07:49 pm »
Anyone...?

Chris Buchan

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 11:09:14 pm »
Thats the same reel im getting in a few months,did a search and that seems the best reel for the money,I did find a place cheaper but then gardeners lowered the price I dont think you'll grt cheaper than gardeners,it looks the best reel for the money.

dazmond

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2014, 08:02:07 am »
hi carl ive got the hi vis reel.its a a 3/4 BSP thread on inside and outside. screw thread fitting.i have a male rectus 26 on the outside and a 10mm barb on the inside.

i only use the reel in winter with hot water and 90m of thermobore plus.

in spring/summer im just using a cheap claber reel with 100m of standard 6mm microbore with cold water.

the reel is very robust and heavy.no good if you take your reel out of the van at every job.i dont.very fast to reel in due to the shape of it.cracking top end reel IMO.
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2014, 08:10:27 am »




summer and winter reels! :)
price higher/work harder!

Carl2009

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2014, 08:32:19 am »
hi carl ive got the hi vis reel.its a a 3/4 BSP thread on inside and outside. screw thread fitting.i have a male rectus 26 on the outside and a 10mm barb on the inside.

i only use the reel in winter with hot water and 90m of thermobore plus.

in spring/summer im just using a cheap claber reel with 100m of standard 6mm microbore with cold water.

the reel is very robust and heavy.no good if you take your reel out of the van at every job.i dont.very fast to reel in due to the shape of it.cracking top end reel IMO.

Cheers Dazmond, thanks for posting. Mmmh I would be lifting it in and out at every job, year round. Is it heavier than the PF one? The Gardiners site (and this one: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H ) say it's 1/2" female, so now I'm confused. Also it seems as if the hose-from-the-van-port needs to be attached vertically, rather than slipping a hozelock connector on horizontally as I do now, which is one-handed and superfast with no banged knuckles. Might have to have a chat with Gardiners. I did try calling yesterday but it was a straight to answerphone day.


dazmond

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 09:29:58 pm »
seriously carl just buy a cheap claber reel if your lifting reel in/out all day.really light!ive had mine for years!itll cost you around £40 and last a few years.not so good for hot water but great if you use  a cold water system all year round.very good value for money mate. :)

i never lift my reel out of the van ever anymore.much easier!!
price higher/work harder!

Carl2009

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 09:36:39 pm »
Hi Daz, Too late mate - just ordered the Koreel from Alex! lol. I don't want to work with the van doors open and any wayI'm used to lifting a reel in and out 20 times a day. There is a conflict on the Gardiner's site though. One part says the bare reel is 4.5kg http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CCWNR_Detail.jpg but same model number on another site says 10.5kg: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H (click Features tab). I think it must be 10.5kg.

Let's see how I go.  :-\

dazmond

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2014, 09:40:41 pm »
carl its heavy mate.A LOT HEAVIER than the claber reel.great if you keep it in the van though pal.id rethink your working day if i were you.no need to hump the reel in/out of the van all day.
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2014, 09:44:28 pm »
also the brass screw fittings youll need for inside and outside of the reel are a pain to screw in properly.really tight fit.make sure you use a bit of PTFE tape on the threads as you wont be able to screw them in right to the end.itll stop them leaking! ;)
price higher/work harder!

PoleKing

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2014, 09:44:55 pm »
carl its heavy mate.A LOT HEAVIER than the claber reel.great if you keep it in the van though pal.id rethink your working day if i were you.no need to hump the reel in/out of the van all day.

Only a Gardiners reel would do eh Daz.
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Alex Gardiner

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2014, 09:51:37 pm »
Hi Daz, Too late mate - just ordered the Koreel from Alex! lol. I don't want to work with the van doors open and any wayI'm used to lifting a reel in and out 20 times a day. There is a conflict on the Gardiner's site though. One part says the bare reel is 4.5kg http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CCWNR_Detail.jpg but same model number on another site says 10.5kg: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H (click Features tab). I think it must be 10.5kg.

Let's see how I go.  :-\

4.5kg is the correct weight - this is about 10 lbs in weight  :)

Carl2009

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2014, 07:19:10 am »
Hi Daz, Too late mate - just ordered the Koreel from Alex! lol. I don't want to work with the van doors open and any wayI'm used to lifting a reel in and out 20 times a day. There is a conflict on the Gardiner's site though. One part says the bare reel is 4.5kg http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CCWNR_Detail.jpg but same model number on another site says 10.5kg: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H (click Features tab). I think it must be 10.5kg.

Let's see how I go.  :-\

4.5kg is the correct weight - this is about 10 lbs in weight  :)

If so that's manageable - the one pictured as Standard Hose Reel (here: http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Hose_Reels.html) must be close to that anyway.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2014, 07:47:38 am »
Hi Daz, Too late mate - just ordered the Koreel from Alex! lol. I don't want to work with the van doors open and any wayI'm used to lifting a reel in and out 20 times a day. There is a conflict on the Gardiner's site though. One part says the bare reel is 4.5kg http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CCWNR_Detail.jpg but same model number on another site says 10.5kg: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H (click Features tab). I think it must be 10.5kg.

Let's see how I go.  :-\

4.5kg is the correct weight - this is about 10 lbs in weight  :)

If so that's manageable - the one pictured as Standard Hose Reel (here: http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Hose_Reels.html) must be close to that anyway.

I am going to have to check this with the manufacturers as this is the weight they have on their technical specification - however this would make it the same weight roughly as the Claber lightweight reel. This cannot be correct. All we had done is used the technical data from the manufacturers themselves which I am now questioning!

I will update when I have looked into it further.

Carl2009

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2014, 08:30:13 am »
Hi Daz, Too late mate - just ordered the Koreel from Alex! lol. I don't want to work with the van doors open and any wayI'm used to lifting a reel in and out 20 times a day. There is a conflict on the Gardiner's site though. One part says the bare reel is 4.5kg http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CCWNR_Detail.jpg but same model number on another site says 10.5kg: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H (click Features tab). I think it must be 10.5kg.

Let's see how I go.  :-\

4.5kg is the correct weight - this is about 10 lbs in weight  :)

If so that's manageable - the one pictured as Standard Hose Reel (here: http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Hose_Reels.html) must be close to that anyway.

I am going to have to check this with the manufacturers as this is the weight they have on their technical specification - however this would make it the same weight roughly as the Claber lightweight reel. This cannot be correct. All we had done is used the technical data from the manufacturers themselves which I am now questioning!

i will update when I have looked into it further.

I spent quite a while looking at these reels yesterday and spoke to your girls about connectors/adaptors, though not the weight. That was because I figured that the "H" designation appended to the one here: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H somehow designated it as different model to yours (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CCWNR_Detail.jpg). Given there is a significant difference in price I thought I was paying for a lighter reel - a fair assumption I think.

I will be interested to hear what you discover Alex.

Cheers

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2014, 08:45:15 am »
Hi Daz, Too late mate - just ordered the Koreel from Alex! lol. I don't want to work with the van doors open and any wayI'm used to lifting a reel in and out 20 times a day. There is a conflict on the Gardiner's site though. One part says the bare reel is 4.5kg http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CCWNR_Detail.jpg but same model number on another site says 10.5kg: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H (click Features tab). I think it must be 10.5kg.

Let's see how I go.  :-\

4.5kg is the correct weight - this is about 10 lbs in weight  :)

If so that's manageable - the one pictured as Standard Hose Reel (here: http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Hose_Reels.html) must be close to that anyway.

I am going to have to check this with the manufacturers as this is the weight they have on their technical specification - however this would make it the same weight roughly as the Claber lightweight reel. This cannot be correct. All we had done is used the technical data from the manufacturers themselves which I am now questioning!

i will update when I have looked into it further.

I spent quite a while looking at these reels yesterday and spoke to your girls about connectors/adaptors, though not the weight. That was because I figured that the "H" designation appended to the one here: http://www.turningpointproducts.co.uk/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=CCWNR-1330H somehow designated it as different model to yours (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CCWNR_Detail.jpg). Given there is a significant difference in price I thought I was paying for a lighter reel - a fair assumption I think.

I will be interested to hear what you discover Alex.

Cheers

There is only £15 difference in price and their one is only slightly cheaper because they have it on sale - originally they had it at £10 more (original price in red) than ours so their pricing is variable. So the slight price variation is not indicative of a specification difference just a retailer's varying offers.

I have contacted the manufacturers for some clarity as I do not have one in stock that I can weigh.

I will update.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2014, 09:47:51 am »
I have checked with the manufacturer and their website specifications were incorrect. They have apologized and said that the correct weight is actually 10.5kg. We have updated our website to this effect.

If you would now rather not have this reel please give the office a call and let them know and we will cancel the order for you.

Carl2009

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Re: Can you help re. Koreel Hi Vis 100 and alternatives
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2014, 12:56:16 pm »
Have come home for a change of clothes ad some water and the reel is already here, and it does feel like 10.5kg. I have loaded with 100m of brand new minibore and (although it's empty of water) it feels similar to my Pure Freedom one. I think i'll keep it as it feels a quality piece of kit.

Daz - will bear in mind what you said about PTFE tape. I use it every time anyway.

Cheers