[mick hay]

Looks like I'm going to have to start employing soon. Totally alien to me, so does anyone know where to go for advice on legals, rights etc?

Cheers

[8weekly]

Me too, but in my case my wife so I'm not too bothered about health and safety. 

I don't have an accountant as I have done my own SA for 30 years and it's easy, but I did wonder if there was a government site where you could enter the wage, then get a calculation of tax & NI due? I may well get a book keeper because I am past the point now where limited makes sense. Especially as there would be two directors drawing dividends.

[8weekly]

https://www.gov.uk/employing-staff

[Spursboy1972]

As a rough guide (before I get slammed) take their basic wage and multiply by Employers NI % which gives you a total cost per pay period or annually however you choose to calculate it. If weekly multiply by 56 (covers 4 weeks holiday) then divide by 52 to give you a much truer weekly cost..

[Ian101]

http://uk.sageone.com/

£6 a month plus £6 for payroll .. EVERYTHING you will ever need .. takes care of RTI for payroll plus all year end pooe

[mick hay]

I want to find out about the employees rights which i must abide by, and if you need to sack them, where do you stand etc?

[martinw]

Look at acas website - tons of information.

But first you need to establish basic procedures: plan of recruitment, record of recruitment, induction, training, contract, employee handbook, health and safety paperwork ie equipment training record,cosh etc.

During trial period you have a right to dismiss an employee if he/she turns out to be unsuitable. However be aware that you need to follow procedures(appraisals, training, progress report, re-training, employee work record.

[pikeman]

Getting to that position myself picking a lot of work up. Take my son with me some days got him down as self employed. But a bit concerned because he comes with me so could be classed as employed by me.  Thinking about starting him as a partner on a 50 50 basis  Not sure if its easy to do though.

[8weekly]

Look at acas website - tons of information.

But first you need to establish basic procedures: plan of recruitment, record of recruitment, induction, training, contract, employee handbook, health and safety paperwork ie equipment training record,cosh etc.

If every employer when he takes on his first member of staff had to do all of the above no one would ever employ. Employee handbook?? lol

[Spursboy1972]

ook at acas website - tons of information.

But first you need to establish basic procedures: plan of recruitment, record of recruitment, induction, training, contract, employee handbook, health and safety paperwork ie equipment training record,cosh etc.


If every employer when he takes on his first member of staff had to do all of the above no one would ever employ. Employee handbook?? lol


Under the letter of the law you should do this.. You need to protect your rights as an employer.. Employment law is very heavily weighted in favour of the employee...

[mick hay]

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This is what worries me!!!

[8weekly]

ook at acas website - tons of information.

But first you need to establish basic procedures: plan of recruitment, record of recruitment, induction, training, contract, employee handbook, health and safety paperwork ie equipment training record,cosh etc.


If every employer when he takes on his first member of staff had to do all of the above no one would ever employ. Employee handbook?? lol


Under the letter of the law you should do this.. You need to protect your rights as an employer.. Employment law is very heavily weighted in favour of the employee...

Quite the reverse. It is the employer that is protected. Honestly, you are talking nonsense. But if you provide links to where it says all this stuff ( employee handbook for one employee, recruitment plan for one employee etc) is required by law I will have to accept that you are right. I won't be holding my breath though.

[Spursboy1972]

Experience and having been to a couple of tribunals.. Does not say you have to provide a handbook but it is about protecting your investment and your own livelihood. But please feel free to proceed your own way... If my experience and knowledge gained via solicitors over the last 6 months to a year is nonsense then you must be one hell of a clever man..

[martinw]

Lets say you have two applicants - and you choose one over the other. Second one decides that  he/she was discriminated due to age, race or whatever.
How will you prove to anyone in court that you haven't without clear evidence such as written process and record?

Employee handbook has 2 main functions - to protect your business (yourself for sole traders) describing of what  company procedures are, and informative function to an employee. Hse rules can be included there.
 If an employee does something in contradiction to rules set out resulting in bodily injury,damages, loss of takings than it will be subject to disciplinary action, gross misconduct, wage/salary deductions to cover your excesses(this now must be part of a contract - otherwise it is illegal) or immediate dismissal.

Should there be any issues than you have everything in black and white and no one will dispute your decisions.

As it may see a lot to do for one employee,  it only takes one to give you massive headache. By doing this, not only you will save yourself a hassle in the future but also you will save  thousands spent on solicitor and compensation fees.

Choice is yours.

[Spursboy1972]

What I was trying to say but he couldn't see it.. Its about looking to the future and not the here and now...

[mick hay]

These are the reasons it makes me think twice, as well as having to go VAT reg. 

[mick hay]

Im wondering if this scenario is legal and possible.

Could i have someone as self employed, who uses my van, wears my logo, so is representing my company, however, only works say 3 days a week, as and when needed? Then invoices me for the work?

[Spursboy1972]

Yes you can. A long as he is able to show he works for other person/people in the remainder of his time.. There is a % level of work whereby he should be classed as employed

[mick hay]

Yes you can. A long as he is able to show he works for other person/people in the remainder of his time.. There is a % level of work whereby he should be classed as employed

Something to look into, thanks for the info   

[Spursboy1972]

Just depends how much control you want over your staff/contractors etc. I vowed never to sub work out as I am then not in control and cannot trust that the work will be completed to my standard. However i would consider having a small network of local W/C's with similar principles that could help each other out without getting shafted.