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posty10

  • Posts: 52
dry fusion
« on: June 24, 2014, 12:31:57 pm »

Hi

I have been asked to start cleaning with Dryfusion machine I have always bonnet or extraction carpet so this is new. and they are not cheap £3500 for starter kits
Is this worth investing in and what sort of cost can you charge per Sq mts??

If any one can help

cheers



Hilton

  • Posts: 5572
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 12:45:02 pm »
asked by who ?

posty10

  • Posts: 52
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 02:04:58 pm »
very funny a customer

Radek Jablonski

  • Posts: 956
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 02:15:36 pm »
DF is just a rotary with heated bonnet
you can offer the same with good chems and good bonnets, DF may offer a bit faster drying thats all

Hilton

  • Posts: 5572
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 03:38:09 pm »
very funny a customer

I'm not being funny its a serious question, you put you have been 'asked' to start cleaning use DF, it sounds like a requirement.

I take it you mean a commercial customer with a bundle of carpet cleaning ready for you to do has asked if you can do it using DF ?   in which case it might be worthwhile dishing out a few grand if it is to be a regular thing.

But if you mean Mrs Jones has asked you to use DF (clever her for knowing about it) then clearly you would not buy one to do a one of lounge clean would you.

Or did you just mean a very funny customer ?

CleanerCarpets

  • Posts: 1292
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 03:55:35 pm »
Not worth it, buy a slow speed 15 inch rotary and board for around 150 second hand and some good bonnets and pads. DF won't do anything different ad their solutions aren't competitive with others as good or better with much better dilution rates working out much cheaper

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 04:55:08 pm »
As said, why is your customer more knowledgable than you? How do they know about DF?

I've had 2 DF machines and they are expensive for what they are, there are alternatives.

Shaun

stuart_clark

  • Posts: 1879
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 07:32:22 pm »
I have two Dry Fusion maches and although they are good, they certainly aren't worth what they are selling them for! If I was to buy another heated bonnet machine I think I would go for the Craftex thermo dry

Deep Cleaning Solutions

  • Posts: 673
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 07:50:26 pm »
I have said it before and I will say it again. I will never let a customer dictate what system I use.

I always turn them around to my thinking and I have had a similar problem when we cleaned one of UK's richest men's £50,000 office carpet ( the size of a thru lounge  :o ) where they wanted us to use DryFusion and I ended doing it the way I wanted to do it as i normally do.
David.
Owner of Deep Cleaning Solutions.
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tim handley

Re: dry fusion
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 07:56:51 pm »
dry fusion machine works really well for me, earns me a lot of money, but, a good old rotary with the right chems would be just as good, although the quick drying on the dry fusion is very helpfull and a selling point......     i paid for my second hand dry fusion machine with four jobs............. which is nice!!!  you say, youve been asked to start cleaning with dry fusion machine?? can i ask you who asked you? was it somebody selling a dry fusion machine????  none of my customers have heard of dry fusion until i turn up and show it to them working.......

Len Gribble

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 08:18:43 pm »
Numatic do a blinding machine it called a 17” rotary! but saying that if the commercial client wants it! It will be in the contract price!

Do like the machine well balanced! Didn’t use the heater as I didn’t use the ringer bucket system! Just lots of pads! Which have to be washed!

Did try to covert an ISS manager once! Sorry we are tried in? But was more impressed with my system/cleaning agents.
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Deep Cleaning Solutions

  • Posts: 673
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 09:05:05 pm »
It has been ISS who have requested me to use DryFusion a few times in the past as well. Carpet cleaning is one thing I will not be taking advice off them!
David.
Owner of Deep Cleaning Solutions.
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CleanerCarpets

  • Posts: 1292
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 09:17:19 pm »
does DF get the carpet dryer quicker? yes the plate gets super hot but how much of that heat actually gets past the pads to the carpet? take a pad off and its not hot! and it couldnt be that hot otherwise it would be dangerous to use on carpet - you cant keep it in one place long enough for effective heat to dry the carpet IMO

i dont know how they get away with advertising carpets dry in 30 mins guaranteed - you would have to use so little moisture on every job to guarantee that that you would end up compromising the clean

i did a job with a franchise once when i had my DF to help them out - it was domestic wool. The customer phoned the franchise a few hours later after the job to say the carpet was still damp in the lounge (which i hadnt cleaned!! ;D) and they ended up refunding them!!

posty10

  • Posts: 52
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2014, 10:57:22 am »

Thank you I think you have answer my question

I have tried Craftex catalysis chemical last night and it seem to do a good job and that's with a numatic slow speed buffer i spray the carpet and bonnet till nearly dry seems the best way with a good chemical.


Cheers
guys

posty10

  • Posts: 52
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2014, 01:27:54 pm »


one of my customer asked me to start using DF will look at thermal dry system as well from Craftex

Jamie Pearson

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Re: dry fusion
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 05:01:03 pm »
Do they have Gaskell carpets by any chance?

stuart_clark

  • Posts: 1879
Re: dry fusion
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 05:50:40 pm »
I think Gaskells and Dry fusion have parted company now, I was one of the original  inspectors for DF
going back about 12 years ago , there was about 8 of us that would look at different locations ie call centres that had been fitted out with Gaskells tiles and offer them a commercial service package and Gaskells would back them up with a ten year warrantee



Stuart