[Chris waters]

Just done a course at cleantalk with Derek Bolton doing the training. (I don't think there's a lot he doesn't know about cleaning) But I'm so confused. I've got the other forum saying m power this and jaguar that. And then I hear here that it's not all it's cracked up to be . I am now thinking micro splinters are the way to go .Its a minefield

[john martin]

 Try to research for yourself and read as many objective posts here by members who have years of experience ...
Don't believe all that is said by those that are paid by or affiliated to the suppliers .

[Derek_Walker]

There are many great cleaning products on the market and everyone has there favourites. But basically most of those products will accomplish the same results if used correctly. Just try a few out and away you go. Whatever you choose, especially with machinery, make sure the after service is good.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Think it will gave been 'John' Bolton, Derek Bolton is associated with Cleansmart even more confusion for you!

You will find that everyone has there own favourite cleaning products independent courses can tell you what you are looking for so you don't get trade names more of what's in it, solutions sell their own products and will push them makes good sense.

Mpower IMO was over sold as being the answer to everything even with long dwell times and lots of agitation doesn't clean everything there will be times when other products will out perform it as there isn't one product that cleans everything.

You need to do tests on fibres and fabric first to determine what you are going to use you can't go wrong if you use neutral ph products.

Shaun

[Chris waters]

It was Derek Bolton .I did some training at cleansmart. He's is a mine of information.
I had a cleanig business sixteen years ago but a lots changed since then.
I have spent quite a few months getting my equipment and chems together,but there seems to be so much hype over some chemicals it makes you wonder if you using the right ones.

[Mike Halliday]

Nothing's really changed in the last 16yrs apart from the rise of the Internet, now we are flooded with information. If you did a good job 16yrs ago you won't go far wrong just cleaning exactly the same as you did then.

The only real difference in the way I clean is I now use Microsplitters were before  I used Prochem traffic lane cleaner & their fabric pre-spray

[Shaun_Ashmore]

You wrote that you saw Derek at a clean talk training course that's where the confusion was.

The main trouble is that you are getting overloaded with information, whoever you choose focus on what they have taught you when you became more au fait with cleaning then you can afford to switch teacher and brands.

Whichever Bolton taught you then you'll not go far wrong.

Shaun

[stuart_clark]

I Thought it was Ken Wainright who did there training ?

[stuart_clark]

I Thought it was Ken Wainright who did there training ?

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

There are two main forums in the u.k, Cleanitup and Cleantalk.

Cleanitup is owned my Mike Boxall who as far as I know doesn't sell cleaning products anymore so there is no editorial policy.

Cleantalk is owned by Solutions and quite naturally is used to promote their products.

Try lots of different products detergents for all the hype about microsplitters and colloids are still used in far greater quantities.

Cheers

Doug

[Pete Blackburn]

Trust me, there is nothing complex about being a carpet cleaner.  Some people can put a spin on the basics to make it appear complex.
There is probably a science in making a cup of tea but its no harder to make one not knowing.

Stick a safe ph product in your machine, scrub a prespray, take many dry passes and away you go.

Some people hide there personal insecurities about the job they do by either boasting a so called grandure of the low skilled industry in which they operate or feel they have to talk up the technical detail. John and Derek are cleaners of carpets, plain and simple.  No degree needed.

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

I will let you into a secret ........ All you need is common sense!

[simonmnickson]

Pete Blackburn

'Being There' and 'Chauncey' or 'Chance' springs to mind but overall you have summed it it so very well - unfortunately
you can give people nuggets of genius but the masses are too thick and too stupid to see truly (how else would you explain Conservatives ever being elected )  so you go unheralded,

Hail Pete
Hail Pete
Hail Pete

 

[Mike Halliday]

If it's easy to be a carpet cleaner and requires just common sense why do we get so many questions about how to clean carpets???

[Shaun_Ashmore]

It's the old chestnut are we carpet cleaners or businessmen?

Carpet cleaning can be easy until it either goes wrong or you get asked to do something more challenging  then experience is required ie learning.

At the end of the day we are salesmen and delivery drivers with a vacuum attached.

Shaun

[derek west]

still learning after 6 years, i must be a right thicko if i don't know it all by now.

[stuart_clark]

Derek

only six years mate ? Just a newbie  ;

[david@zap-clean]

Just done a course at cleantalk with Derek Bolton doing the training. (I don't think there's a lot he doesn't know about cleaning) But I'm so confused. I've got the other forum saying m power this and jaguar that. And then I hear here that it's not all it's cracked up to be . I am now thinking micro splinters are the way to go .Its a minefield

It was the UPHOLSTERY training course at Cleansmart, Notts, delivered by Derek Bolton, who is one of the top trainers in the country.

As has already been said here, carpet cleaning isn't usually very difficult.  But upholstery cleaning can be!  If you stick with Derek's gudelines you have enough information to start upholstery cleaning.  It is an introductory course; one day training is not going to make anyone an expert.

Stay on the 'safe' side, stick to Derek's training, and consider getting more knowledge through further training like the IICRC Upholstery and Fabric Technician, Advanced Spot and Stain (various suppliers). And (like I did) repeat the course in the future, perhaps with different trainer/suppliers to recap your knowledge and pick up different/latest tips.

There's always something new to learn in this industry.

A sponsored forum is always going to be very 'supportive' of its sponsors products isn't it!  Unlike this forum, where you've only got everyone's opinions to deal with :-)

[JandS]

The work is the easy bit, it's getting it at a good rate that's the expert bit.

[Mike Halliday]

I know lots of carpet cleaners, some think that carpet cleaning is easy and just requires comman sense, that you can learn everything you need to know in a few weeks. Some others think its a technical subject that requires a lot of knowledge, that it requires constant study and updating of skills

Guess which ones earn the most? And are the busiest?

 There  is a line of thought that we are only limited by our imagination, that the biggest thing holding us back from achieving greatness is our limiting beliefs.

If you believe......it's easy.... anyone can do it......it can be learned in 2 weeks.....no one will pay £180 to have a suite cleaned... It's only carpet cleaning, not rocket science..............and everything else that is said to put carpet cleaning down

  then in your own mind the value of what you offer is diminished so your true potential is held back. If you believe you are just a glorified cleaner, you will charge what you think a cleaners deserves.