[Sean Dyer]

anyone have any recommendations of any good people / firms

ive been quoted £200 pcm for seo but feel its a bit steep

[koopmaster]

Ouch, I have a website but don't pay for advertising,  I have my business on Google maps, since I redirect my customers to pay on my site I get a bunch of unique hits so have moved up on the google ranking, did take a few years though.

[Sean Dyer]

its worth it for what he does , trouble is im a one man band so its a big chunk , if i had staff and dreams of empires its a drop in the ocean , if i cant find what i want cheaper ill do it for a year and then see how the site performs after that, but if i can get it cheaper i will

£2400 to get to no 1 on google over the yr isnt too much im just seeing as its the first quote i got, and i dont think its that hard, ive got a site to no 1 on google in the past but things have changed now and i want it reasonably fast

[alfie11]

£2400 to get to no 1 on google over the yr isnt too much

Anyone who says give me cash and they can get you to No1 on Google deserves a kick in the bollox

[AJ]

£200 per month isn't bad for the returns it can bring.
Dont pay in advance each month, pay on results. If at the end of the month you're at No1, pay the £200. If it drops away then don't

[PoleKing]

Nat is your man.
I doubt he'd charge you £200 either.
He got me to first place for 'window cleaner/ing...' on at least 3 of the towns I wanted within a few weeks.

[Approved]

Sean theirs a company in Bristol called Team partners who charge around £300 per quarter so £100 a month.

[robbo333]

200 quid a month would buy a lot of google adwords!

[bobplum]

And yet SEO is now frowned upon by google , so everyone in the know keeps telling me

Might be better doing Google Adwords

[PoleKing]

And yet SEO is now frowned upon by google , so everyone in the know keeps telling me

Might be better doing Google Adwords

Who told you that?

[bobplum]

And yet SEO is now frowned upon by google , so everyone in the know keeps telling me

Might be better doing Google Adwords

Who told you that?

I think Nat as mention it??, i will stand corrected.
The guy from Studio Arts, does a lot of sites on here, i will stand corrected
Two people who make sites have told me
I think its a push by the likes of google to make it harder so people will gravitate over to Google adwords, i could be wrong.

I have two sites, one i optimise myself and its on the first page of three different areas and the second is starting to move in the right direction

[PoleKing]

And yet SEO is now frowned upon by google , so everyone in the know keeps telling me

Might be better doing Google Adwords

Who told you that?

I think Nat as mention it??, i will stand corrected.
The guy from Studio Arts, does a lot of sites on here, i will stand corrected
Two people who make sites have told me
I think its a push by the likes of google to make it harder so people will gravitate over to Google adwords, i could be wrong.

I have two sites, one i optimise myself and its on the first page of three different areas and the second is starting to move in the right direction

Cool.
I have less than no clue about things like thT.
Nat does my SEO.

[Arnold Palmer]

And yet SEO is now frowned upon by google , so everyone in the know keeps telling me

Might be better doing Google Adwords

Who told you that?

It depends on how the SEO is implemented. There are charlatans out there who will simply spam sites like Facebook with links to your website, and charge you for the privilege. This will, in the short-term push up your ranking. Once you get busted by a Google bot thingmy you'll end up on page 100, if you're lucky.

There are other ways of optimising your search engine performance. Most of which, you can do yourself.

[PoleKing]

And yet SEO is now frowned upon by google , so everyone in the know keeps telling me

Might be better doing Google Adwords

Who told you that?

It depends on how the SEO is implemented. There are charlatans out there who will simply spam sites like Facebook with links to your website, and charge you for the privilege. This will, in the short-term push up your ranking. Once you get busted by a Google bot thingmy you'll end up on page 100, if you're lucky.

There are other ways of optimising your search engine performance. Most of which, you can do yourself.

I've been right where I wanna be on google for about 3 months now.
Nat did it all.
Don't know what he did, but I have confidence in that plastic paddy.

[HampshireWindowCleaning]

With a bit of research you can do it yourself, I made my own site and done my own seo and I didn't have a clue when I started it. I'm now the first window cleaner on google for my area.

[PoleKing]

With a bit of research you can do it yourself, I made my own site and done my own seo and I didn't have a clue when I started it. I'm now the first window cleaner on google for my area.

Fair enough.
It's time for me too.
It's cheaper for me to pay Nat tbh.
I actually think Nat is too cheap for the service he provides.
(Nat, if you're reading, forget I said that )

[Arnold Palmer]

I'm sure Nathaniel isn't one of the charlatans I mentioned. Most of those companies tend to be cold callers who, in their opening sentence on the phone, tell you things like; "I'm calling on behalf of Google". They aren't. Google won't phone you.

SEO is an ever evolving science, with companies like Google frequently moving the goalposts. I don't really fully understand it.

I too am the 1st result when you search "window cleaner + my town". I have never paid for seo either. Just did most of the tips you get if you Google "seo tips".

[Nathanael Jones]

Getting high rankings on Google isn't rocket science - - but what these "SEO Experts" do and what I do are two totally different things.

I concentrate on "On-site optimisation" - basically making sure that the important information that Google needs to see is on your website, easily visible to the search engine and in all the right places. This approach takes a couple of months to really start working properly but gives long term organic rankings that are unlikely to be affected by any future algorithm updates. Google loves quality, unique content - give it enough & this alone will get you first page results.

Most "SEO Experts" concentrate on off-site SEO techniques like link building - these methods usually provide results very quickly and very effectively and can produce more traffic than organic rankings alone, but new links need to be built every month to keep your rankings high. This kind of SEO also comes with risk, albeit a managed risk - - create the wrong links (from low quality or irrelevant sites) and it can negatively impact your SEO, so you need to be sure your "expert" really does know what he's doing. Also, the way google calculates your ranking changes from time to time - the penguin update about 18 months ago changed the way links affected ranking and because of this update a significant percentage of websites that employed previously acceptable SEO techniques suddenly found their rankings decimated overnight, almost blacklisted from Google.

My recommendation is always go with organic ranking, and if you need to boost it add more content via blog posts or by adding extra pages. 

[Window Lickers]

SEO and e-mail marketing lists. The new scourge of e-Mail IMO.


I've not paid anyone a penny for SEO services, ever. Done it all myself. It's very easy. Requires very little time. You don't need to attend to it as regularly or as often as is often implied. The most time it takes is the initial implementation in meta tags etc, submitting your sites URL to varying search engines. I reckon I spend about 15 mins a month on ours and were on page one of google for all cleaning services in our local town.

[J.D]

Its a con !