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Mick Kent

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2014, 08:38:44 pm »
If you want customers and want them Fast there is no better way than to do it via sold boards! Nothing comes close to the retention and simplicity of it as well as costing nothing.

James Styles

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2019, 01:40:59 am »
Awesome thread. I still feel anxious with canvassing but I find after the 30 mins the fear fades and I feel more confident. I’m a lot calmer with it then I was in the beginning, I’m hoping after a few more months it will be even easier.

jonboywalton75

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2019, 03:47:41 am »
This is not a windup
My nephew has a nice looking wife.
He went canvassing in the south Manchester area., affluent areas mostly, Bramhall, Poynton, Wilmslow, Alderley Edge etc.
He built up a round worth 2 or 3 full days a month  a short time after he left a dull civil servant's job.
That was 3 or 4 years ago, he is going strong.
What's this got to do with his wife.........




She went canvassing with him!!!!!!
Hope this doesn't sound sexist😱😱😱😱

jonboywalton75

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2019, 03:52:02 am »
My wife is nice looking but hates canvassing so i bought 3 or 4 small rounds with £5000 of my redundancy money and naturally expanded these rounds.
That was 20 years ago after i left a good job in
 I. C. I.
Canvassing, leafletting, websites, referrals etc were all part of the expansion.
Horses for courses!!

jonboywalton75

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2019, 03:55:49 am »
I love canvassing ... I love leafleting ... both work just differently.

To the OP ... you need to pshyc yourself up before hand ... play it thru your minds eye like the pro athletes do before a big event.

I would offer to come over to you but as im a scouser I like to keep away from Manchester unless its the Trafford Centre or John Bishop playing the MEN .... get yourself over here to lovely North Wales one Saturday morning and I will show you how to canvass for free (brekky in café is on you though  ;D) and no coming back to work my area  :o :o

Lemme know if any good for you

That's good of you to make that offer Ian. I'm impressed.

Happy to help anyone who is keen to get on  :)

I know Ian, he's a good honest, reliable bloke.
Even if I did catch him cleaning the gutters of one of my customers one day 😊😊😊
BTW Ian, how's it hanging????

jonboywalton75

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #65 on: June 06, 2019, 04:05:54 am »
Also Ian, "Lovely North Wales"
I thought you lived in Wrexham😱
LOL

jonboywalton75

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #66 on: June 06, 2019, 04:21:40 am »
Flippin heck, i just noticed how old this thread was.
Its the middle of the night and i cant sleep💤💤💤💤
Just shows how the old threads were the best, (as entertaining as the posts from Lee Pryor were a few months ago😁😁😁😁)

Stoots

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2019, 07:50:26 am »
Lol

Thank for digging this up.

Fast forward 5 years and over 500 customers later I never did get to grips with canvassing.

I dont fear it anymore, as for my anxiety I'm a lot more confident these days this job as helped me grow as a person through the struggles of starting a business ... but I still don't canvass because I just don't like doing it.

In the end I built my round by spending money on canvassing, leaflets and online ads.

I would estimate I've spent about 15k on advertising/marketing etc.

jonboywalton75

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #68 on: June 06, 2019, 08:07:11 am »
I once spent £75 on lead generation
That's not for me
I don't canvas or leaflet now
My website silently tops my round up now, don't need much (I'm 62)
I'm slipping off into retirement when my fooballers knee needs replacing 😱
Most, probably, 90% of my success has been down to CIU members
Give yourselves a round of applause (except Nathan NK that is😍😍😍😍)

AuRavelling79

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #69 on: June 06, 2019, 08:08:14 am »
This is not a windup
My nephew has a nice looking wife.
He went canvassing in the south Manchester area., affluent areas mostly, Bramhall, Poynton, Wilmslow, Alderley Edge etc.
He built up a round worth 2 or 3 full days a month  a short time after he left a dull civil servant's job.
That was 3 or 4 years ago, he is going strong.
What's this got to do with his wife.........




She went canvassing with him!!!!!!
Hope this doesn't sound sexist😱😱😱😱

I now rarely canvass or look for new work and my wife probably works with me twice a year - maybe on a school or an internal business clean I do annually as she can trad clean. I would describe her as "easy on the eye"  even though she is now in her fifties. (Bear in mind most of the couples I work for are in their 60's through eighties)  ;D

I had an area which is about two dozen properties in the £25/£50 range along a mile of semi rural road. I had about five of these houses so I asked her to come out and canvass in between my work while I cleaned the windows. It was a nice sunny day and she got me five more and so the value of the work there went up from about £150 to about £300.  They have all "stuck" and are good customers.

It's a game of three halves!

Dry Clean

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2019, 08:12:27 am »
I turn into Nathan K when canvassing and waffle that much to the potential customer that I actually confuse myself.
Back when I first started I spent a week canvassing and got 2 customers my wife went out and in one evening got 20.

nathankaye

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #71 on: June 06, 2019, 08:19:17 am »
I turn into Nathan K when canvassing and waffle that much to the potential customer that I actually confuse myself.
Back when I first started I spent a week canvassing and got 2 customers my wife went out and in one evening got 20.

Nah Sean your doing it wrong.  You need to waffle that much that they agree, just to get rid of you
😂😂
facebook.com/1NKServices
1NKServices.co.uk

jonboywalton75

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #72 on: June 06, 2019, 08:47:51 am »
I turn into Nathan K when canvassing and waffle that much to the potential customer that I actually confuse myself.
Back when I first started I spent a week canvassing and got 2 customers my wife went out and in one evening got 20.

Nah Sean your doing it wrong.  You need to waffle that much that they agree, just to get rid of you
😂😂
Are you a JW Nathan?

James Styles

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2019, 12:28:37 pm »
I turn into Nathan K when canvassing and waffle that much to the potential customer that I actually confuse myself.
Back when I first started I spent a week canvassing and got 2 customers my wife went out and in one evening got 20.

Nah Sean your doing it wrong.  You need to waffle that much that they agree, just to get rid of you
😂😂
Are you a JW Nathan?

What’s a JW ???

Oliver James

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #74 on: June 06, 2019, 01:03:43 pm »
JW = Jehovas Witness. Window cleaning is a popular career choice for JW's because the work allows them to devote time to their religion.

Adam,

Don't take ANYTHING a prospect says or does personally.

Use numbers to get you in the grove

Here are some I use:

1. Yes/No Ratio (should be about 60 No, to 1 yes).
2. Time per sale. Mine is one every 2.55 hours, and that is signing up a customer to DD.

You will need at least half an hour to get in the groove, so give yourself a 30 min practise session to warm up.

Get your customers to write you some testimonials and then hand this across if you get any indications of interest. Give them time to read it.

To make things easier for you, I would just hold up the leaflet (put it on a clipboard) and just say: "Hi, I put this through your door".

Don't try to be happy and smiley all the time,  with fake niceness like a check out operative at Waitrose.

It is too exhausting if you are putting in the hours that successs at canvassing demands. Just be yourself, and conserve energy where you can.

I canvass every evening and I do at the weekends as well, and I've been doing this 20-30 hours a week since 1st of Jan. If you think canvassing is bad now, try doing it in January at 7 on a dark evening in sub zero with 8 layers on to keep warm!

Get two umbrellas. One is a small foldable one that goes in the briefcase. The other one is a double skinned Stormshield Umbrella. Nothing stops me canvassing - not even the rain.

I've added nearly 100 new customers so far this year, and every one of them has signed a DD mandate on the door (I'm allowed to this because I've got the Go Cardless 'Pro' package.

As much as canvassing is hard sometimes, when things are tough, and they often are, I try to be grateful that we're in a game where we can just go out and get new customers, and you can usually speak to the decision maker straight away.

What you wear is important. I used to wear suit trouser and an embroidered fleece. Then I canvassed in my work gear. Recently I've started to wear chinos, leather shoes, a dress shirt, and a smart blazer with my company badge sewed onto the breast pocket and a pocket handkerchief.  Also carry a leather holdall that I got off ebay for £50 and polished up at home.

You only get one chance to make a good first impression and people are noticably 'warmer' at the door.

Don't forget to nominate me for Best Dressed Door Pest 2019 :-))

Oliver James

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2019, 01:08:45 pm »
Forgot to say: Read Paul Dale and Ian Lancasters posts if you want more info on how to do it.

G Griffin

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2019, 01:10:10 pm »
Alan Partridge comes to mind.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

Michael Peterson

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2019, 02:06:39 pm »
FIRSTLY . You got a 100 out , well done , that’s the first brick in the wall ! You could have done nothing but you didn’t. 100 doesn’t seem like a lot but do it every day forever and your customers will stream in as steadily as well. SECONDLY try to think of the anxiety this way ... it’s new it’s change it’s anxious ... but humans (and chickens for some reason) have the ability of foresight,  so what repeated exposure to the leafleting will do is reduce anxiety over time as it’s not new and scary any longer (a dog for example doesn’t think like this so once scared of the Hoover always scared of the Hoover. and lastly excersise raises serotonin and will lower anxiety . So good on you man lee going , download the headspace app , don’t drink coffee before you go and yall be great . I leaflet all the time , you won’t see that many people anyway

Oliver James

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2019, 03:26:52 pm »
Exercise is a good one

What I do sometimes is log how fast I'm going on Strava and for a couple of weekends in March I put trainers on, ran between doors, and logged how far I'd run in two days.

It was something like 11 miles a day, but I was so knackered afterwards I stopped running and canvassing at the same time!

Everyone feels 'The Fear' at first. I read somewhere that this completely irrational fear that you feel is a biological mechanism called "Approach Anxiety"

A long time ago, Back when all humans lived in small rural communities, only the Alpha males had access to the females, and the beta males would sometimes make attempts to approach the females.

If the beta male was rejected by a female, this would occur in front of the entire community, and it would completely ruin that beta males chances of accessing a female for a very, very long time.

Fairly recently (in terms of the length of time it takes to for evolution to happen) we've moved to cities and towns. And so, a beta male could now, in theory at least, approach 10s of thousands of females, with very little social consequences (watch any nightclub Lothario or read Neil Strauss's "The Game" for evidence of this happening).

So, according to this theory, that terrible fear of 'Approach Anxiety' you feel (and anyone who has canvassed will know exactly what I'm talking about!) is rooted in evolutionary biology. It is a biological mechanism that evolved when we were living in small communities and there were serious consequences for you if you approached someone and they rejected you.

Now we live in large cities, there are literally millions of doors out there to knock, and this fear you feel is a biological artefact from a different time. According to this theory, "Approach Anxiety" is basically a historic artefact of your biology messin' with your head.

Good point about constant exposure to risk habituating you to it.

I used to be a mountaineer (see www.super-7.co.uk if you ever need a cure for insomnia)  and constantly putting yourself in 'The Danger Zone' makes it so much easier to do it. So does pre-leafletting areas, because you are familiar with the area. Time spent in Reconniassance is never time wasted.

Two mental tricks that mountaineers apply to danger can be deployed for canvassing.

1. VISUALISE THE ROUTE
When I think of this long term canvassing mission I'm on (If things go my way, I have 12-18 months of canvassing 20-30 hour a week before my canvassing days are hopefully over, and I can afford to grow the biz with leaflets). I think of it as a route to the top of a mountain. So, every night and weekend I go out, I'm ticking off a section of the route. Break the 'challenge' down into small steps. A little and often is the way to go. You can also give yourself 'half time', a break to relax and celebrate what  you've achieved half way through the session / week / month.

2, FOCUS ON THE PROCESS NOT THE OUTCOME
As you walk to the door, be in the moment and focus on your posture, your breathing and take a couple of deep breaths, (yogi's teach you do 'darth vader' style breathing because it 'settles' you more). Knock knock, this is when I quickly slam a couple of business cards thru the box. Boom! . Count to 12. At six seconds  a leaflet (already pre-rolled on the walk up the drive) gets fired thru the door. Boom!

I can hear them approaching the door now. 10 seconds, I Swing body so I'm facing sideways towards them when they crack open the door and am in a non-threatening, sideways posture when they first see me. The door opens, I turn towards them, hold up leaflet so it is as near to my eyeline as possible. Eye contact, pause, smile if you have the energy and "Hi, I put this through your door...."

By focusing on the process, you will start to become less dependent on the outcome. In thousands of hours of canvassing I can count on the fingers of my hand the times when I've been a bit scared, because a homeowner is using foul language or is verbally threatening. It is very, very rare, maybe one or two times a year if you are canvassing full time.

Adam, I used to climb with a guy who was born with half a hand, and he climbed routes that were way harder than what I could do. He had a poster on his bedroom wall of a climber and the words he'd written on it were:

"Don't Let Your Fears Stand In The Way of Your Dreams"

Stoots

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Re: Is anyone else terrified of canvassing?
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2019, 04:30:56 pm »
Thank for the advice guys  ;D

But this thread is 5 years old!

I no longer have any interest in canvassing or leafletting myself, I've found easier and less stressful ways to build work these days.

Mainly paying someone else to do it or using online methods of lead generation.

I don't fear canvassing anymore, I just don't need to and can't be bothered to do it.