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Mike Halliday

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over-rated chemicals
« on: May 17, 2014, 02:20:51 pm »
just got to the end of 5lts 'zip it' from Amtech, i'm a big fan of Amtech and think over all their chemicals are excellent....... but.......

I've got to say I wasn't impressed with Zip it, I don't think I used it once and was happy.

what chemical failed to impress you?

try not to slag off the company its not about the company its the chemical you didn't get on with
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Mike Halliday

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2014, 02:24:30 pm »
got it wrong.... it was 10lts not 5 so you can't say I didn't give it a good trial ;)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Dave_Lee

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2014, 03:21:58 pm »
I don't experiment with chemicals so much these days, I just stay with those that I know work well. Not naming any chems but I have been disappointed with many chems that others really like, and I know that some don't get on with what I use.
Dave.
Dave Lee, Owner of Deepclean Services
Chorley Lancs. Est 1980.
"Pay Cheap -You get Cheap - Pay a little more and get something Better."

Doug Holloway

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2014, 05:01:03 pm »
Hi Guys

First time I tried 'microspiltters' expecting good things after all the hype and was very disappointed.

I do now use Pureclean as my default upholstery chemical but rarely on carpets.

Cheers

Doug


Paul Moss

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2014, 05:07:13 pm »
Tried zip when it first came out, yep poop e. Was there another too, think it was zap, that was poo too.

Carpet Dawg

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2014, 06:51:45 pm »
well i'll be the first to say it then, Mpower = poop. think there was another called fusion clean or something? I bought at the same time, that was poop too.

microsplitters in general are poop.

SteveAllan

Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2014, 07:21:43 pm »
What chems do you use carpet dawg. I struggled with m power in the beginning but finally cracked it. Don't you use microsplitters at all.

Raymondo

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2014, 07:24:22 pm »
All the manufactures sell some rubbish chemical that don't work take coffee stain remover I have yet to find one that works you spray it on wait a few minutes do a dance round the stain you extract it and guess what it still there.

Mike Halliday

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2014, 07:38:41 pm »
Prochems browning prescription is the best coffee stain remover I've tried before using sod' met

Microsplitters are my first choice for general prespray use them 90% of the time
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

David Ware

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2014, 08:04:20 pm »
It just goes to show how we can agree to disagree with different chemicals and machinery. I have been using Zip It for about 2 years as a general spotter and have found it to be good. Certain spots will require a specialist product to be effective.
David

mr muzzy

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2014, 08:08:37 pm »
extracta super chem not good at all ,it fills the air in the van with a light powder kills you

Richard Meads

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2014, 08:12:44 pm »
I never could get a good result with M Power, but I use the M Power spotter all the time!

C o z y

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2014, 08:14:51 pm »
Prochems browning prescription is the best coffee stain remover I've tried before using sod' met

Microsplitters are my first choice for general prespray use them 90% of the time

Same here. We use "One Step" a lot of the time on carpet and upholstery.
No still don't understand, I must be thick

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2014, 08:31:15 pm »
A nice tea and coffee spotter ready to use is alltecs red wine remover, as for rubbish products I have used the ones I use now for so long I can't remember the ones that I've not got on with.

Shaun

Paul Redden Countryfresh

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2014, 09:54:24 pm »
used zip it today, not a miracle. some will, some wont
"So basically its a big vax!"

Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2014, 10:26:41 pm »
MPower. I believed all the hype users were giving and it never got within 1% of what people were saying

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2014, 10:35:01 pm »
I found that that colloidal cleaners work well on natural fibres but forget it on synthetics I do have some in the van but I use it for remedial treatments.

Shaun

Tadgh O Shea

Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2014, 12:55:24 am »
High alkaline based cleaning chemicals, most chemical MFGs produce them, but they cause so much detrimental damage to surfaces from continuous use, and not just on carpet and upholstery but on all surfaces, just my opinion after being in the industry for over 30 years.

Mike Halliday

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Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2014, 10:15:40 am »
High ph chemicals are used as it's the quick & easy option, most carpets can be cleaned with lower ph but it might need extra time or agitation or a bit more knowledge, but hitting everything with champion is easier.

The thing is some people have one Hydraforce which they use on every job so rather than keep emptying & re-filling for each job they stick a high ph powder in it, who carries 2 or 3 Hydraforce on the van?

I asked a while ago if anyone had found a 1lt container you could fit to a Hydraforce so you could carry 3or4 different 1 lt containers of different presprays then change it to suit the specific carpet on the job.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

adrian marsh

Re: over-rated chemicals
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2014, 10:18:57 am »
High alkaline based cleaning chemicals, most chemical MFGs produce them, but they cause so much detrimental damage to surfaces from continuous use, and not just on carpet and upholstery but on all surfaces, just my opinion after being in the industry for over 30 years.

Good post Tadgh. This begs the question, are we using anything just to clean with no thought to the long term (potential) damage the product can cause, or do we use products which will clean in the safest manner according to the soiling & fibre type? Ok, I go nuclear from time to time, normally on trashed PP, but generally I'll use an eco product.

Worst product? Well Ultimate Master didn't do my pump much good a few years ago, which is the main reason I switched to only putting nothing put water through pumps from then on. Also have a tub full of Shockwave in the garage if anyones interested.