[paul ette]

Think it's different for different windows, in my opinion wfp gets the frames a lot better, stays cleaner longer ,but you do get the odd drip/ streak usually seals and oxidised frames in my experience

[Chris - CBWC]

Sorry for hijacking the thread Paul!  I'll start a different one and hopefully yours can get back on topic

[SeanK]

how can you say that wfp gets better results than trad rubbish youi will all ways get 100 %  with trad but you neer know with wfp i have been trad 30 years  and 7 wfp  so i use both but always get a better with trad where i=we can use it

^^^^^^^^^^
I'm not even going to say the obvious. Lol

I check my work every day.

Spotless.

Went through the whole of 2013 without a single complaint. Over 300 monthly customers. I regularly do interior work so I can check the results.

Everyone makes the odd mistake as I'm sure I do, but for me WFP gives a better ALLROUND finish. Frames are clean and glass is sparkling.

It's all in the technique.

How do you check your work every day ?
Do stand and wait until every window is fully dry before going on to the next property or do you
come back and check all your finished work at the end off the day.
I don't get complaints but its not because my work is spot and run free it just that my customers put up
with it.

[Jonny 87]

I clean all the houses where the van is parked. Then I pack up all my gear and go back round putting my invoices through their doors. I usually take a scrim out my pouch and pretend to be wiping the sill when in reality I'm making sure the glass is sparkling.

Did it all day today and not once did I need to correct anything.

If I honestly thought my customers where having to "put up" with the results I don't think I'd sleep at night or I'd even pack in all together. (Sad I know) I'm a perfectionist and have pride in my work and it seems to be paying off.

I took over a run 4 years ago from a couple of trad guys and I have tripled in size in the 4 years I've been at it.

I've never canvassed or leafletted, All my work has been recommendations from existing customers and people seeing me out and about.

Do you think that be the case if they were having to "put up" (as you say) with the standard of my work?

Pure water cleaning (if done correctly) is flawless. All windows dry to sparkling clear finish. If they don't? That's down to your technique, your doing something wrong.

[Chris - CBWC]

By the time you've finished the house, the front is usually mostly dry, and you'll be able to tell how it's going to dry as they'll only be a few droplets left, or none if it was in the sun.

I genuinely don't know how to get the windows 100% spotless, which is why I need more tips with my technique!  I don't know where I'm going wrong, there are so many different ways to clean - how much scrubbing on the frames, how to scrub and how much to scrub the glass, how much and where to rinse.

Jonny how much is your average hourly or daily rate, if you don't mind?  I can do £100-110 in a day with maybe time for one more but I'm pretty shattered by 4:30, a 7 hour day that starts with me doing the school run (wife works early mornings).  I try not to worry about my hourly wage as it's really only about what you go home with at the end of the day.

If I honestly thought my customers where having to "put up" with the results I don't think I'd sleep at night or I'd even pack in all together. (Sad I know) I'm a perfectionist and have pride in my work and it seems to be paying off.

Lol this is where I am at the moment!  And is the root of my questions, the quest to be better!  I've always taken pride in my job and knowing I can be relied upon, and I'm desperate for this to continue with wfp.  I remember back when I started trad, how depressing it was at the amount of time it took to clean each house, similar feelings now about giving up (although it's more about work quality than time taken, but being quicker would help) but I'm determined and plenty of other people can clean the windows without issue so I should be able to too.

[Jonny 87]

By the time you've finished the house, the front is usually mostly dry, and you'll be able to tell how it's going to dry as they'll only be a few droplets left, or none if it was in the sun.

I genuinely don't know how to get the windows 100% spotless, which is why I need more tips with my technique!  I don't know where I'm going wrong, there are so many different ways to clean - how much scrubbing on the frames, how to scrub and how much to scrub the glass, how much and where to rinse.

Jonny how much is your average hourly or daily rate, if you don't mind?  I can do £100-110 in a day with maybe time for one more but I'm pretty shattered by 4:30, a 7 hour day that starts with me doing the school run (wife works early mornings).  I try not to worry about my hourly wage as it's really only about what you go home with at the end of the day.

If I honestly thought my customers where having to "put up" with the results I don't think I'd sleep at night or I'd even pack in all together. (Sad I know) I'm a perfectionist and have pride in my work and it seems to be paying off.

Lol this is where I am at the moment!  And is the root of my questions, the quest to be better!  I've always taken pride in my job and knowing I can be relied upon, and I'm desperate for this to continue with wfp.  I remember back when I started trad, how depressing it was at the amount of time it took to clean each house, similar feelings now about giving up (although it's more about work quality than time taken, but being quicker would help) but I'm determined and plenty of other people can clean the windows without issue so I should be able to too.

Days earnings vary mate. You know what it's like. We have good days and days that you feel like your driving all over the place and not making much. Don't really want to give specific figures on a forum but the amounts you mentioned for a full day aren't terrible, but there also not too great.

Once you get your technique right and confidence up you will see how good the results are and that will help you make more/be quicker.

 

[paul ette]

Reckon someone should make a video on techniques, I can do it pretty fast but don't check my work, have fone some insides in the past and noticed the odd drip, but it is literally the odd drip.
Would be interesting to see how others do it

[PoleKing]

By the time you've finished the house, the front is usually mostly dry, and you'll be able to tell how it's going to dry as they'll only be a few droplets left, or none if it was in the sun.

I genuinely don't know how to get the windows 100% spotless, which is why I need more tips with my technique!  I don't know where I'm going wrong, there are so many different ways to clean - how much scrubbing on the frames, how to scrub and how much to scrub the glass, how much and where to rinse.

Jonny how much is your average hourly or daily rate, if you don't mind?  I can do £100-110 in a day with maybe time for one more but I'm pretty shattered by 4:30, a 7 hour day that starts with me doing the school run (wife works early mornings).  I try not to worry about my hourly wage as it's really only about what you go home with at the end of the day.

If I honestly thought my customers where having to "put up" with the results I don't think I'd sleep at night or I'd even pack in all together. (Sad I know) I'm a perfectionist and have pride in my work and it seems to be paying off.

Lol this is where I am at the moment!  And is the root of my questions, the quest to be better!  I've always taken pride in my job and knowing I can be relied upon, and I'm desperate for this to continue with wfp.  I remember back when I started trad, how depressing it was at the amount of time it took to clean each house, similar feelings now about giving up (although it's more about work quality than time taken, but being quicker would help) but I'm determined and plenty of other people can clean the windows without issue so I should be able to too.

Days earnings vary mate. You know what it's like. We have good days and days that you feel like your driving all over the place and not making much. Don't really want to give specific figures on a forum but the amounts you mentioned for a full day aren't terrible, but there also not too great.

Once you get your technique right and confidence up you will see how good the results are and that will help you make more/be quicker.

 

That's about as good as you'll get £100 a day is really top dollar.
Anyone who says they make more cleaning windows is telling porkies.
If you can't get by on that, you might as well pack up and get a proper job.
Ask Soupy, I think he'll agree.

[lal]

I clean all the houses where the van is parked. Then I pack up all my gear and go back round putting my invoices through their doors. I usually take a scrim out my pouch and pretend to be wiping the sill when in reality I'm making sure the glass is sparkling.

Did it all day today and not once did I need to correct anything.

If I honestly thought my customers where having to "put up" with the results I don't think I'd sleep at night or I'd even pack in all together. (Sad I know) I'm a perfectionist and have pride in my work and it seems to be paying off.

I took over a run 4 years ago from a couple of trad guys and I have tripled in size in the 4 years I've been at it.

I've never canvassed or leafletted, All my work has been recommendations from existing customers and people seeing me out and about.

Do you think that be the case if they were having to "put up" (as you say) with the standard of my work?

Pure water cleaning (if done correctly) is flawless. All windows dry to sparkling clear finish. If they don't? That's down to your technique, your doing something wrong.

Good honest post Jonny, the fact that you put the effort in and that you are very work quality conscientious has paid
dividends to your business, good luck to you all the best mate.

Lal

[Jonny 87]

I clean all the houses where the van is parked. Then I pack up all my gear and go back round putting my invoices through their doors. I usually take a scrim out my pouch and pretend to be wiping the sill when in reality I'm making sure the glass is sparkling.

Did it all day today and not once did I need to correct anything.

If I honestly thought my customers where having to "put up" with the results I don't think I'd sleep at night or I'd even pack in all together. (Sad I know) I'm a perfectionist and have pride in my work and it seems to be paying off.

I took over a run 4 years ago from a couple of trad guys and I have tripled in size in the 4 years I've been at it.

I've never canvassed or leafletted, All my work has been recommendations from existing customers and people seeing me out and about.

Do you think that be the case if they were having to "put up" (as you say) with the standard of my work?

Pure water cleaning (if done correctly) is flawless. All windows dry to sparkling clear finish. If they don't? That's down to your technique, your doing something wrong.

Good honest post Jonny, the fact that you put the effort in and that you are very work quality conscientious has paid
dividends to your business, good luck to you all the best mate.

Lal

Thanks mate. All the best to you too.