[H20cleaning]

I was having a break for 30mins in between jobs when i seen the local ladder monkeys come into the same street. I timed them to see how long it took 4 of them to "clean" 7 houses and it was 11 minutes!!! How do they get away with it? The same 7 would of took me at least 1 hour 20mins
Also one of their customers brought them all a can of diet coke out, and gave them a biscuit, one of them was at the top of his ladder stopped and texted on his phone then as he came back down the ladder it slipped onto a porch( luckily) i even video'd it lol

The guy who owns the round has about 1600 houses apparently and they charge about £2.50-4.50 a house Imagine collecting

[H20cleaning]

Here... Look at the ladder on the top photo compared to bottom when it slipped

[Jonny 87]

Lol.

There quite a few brigades out there like that. Glass only and really quick.

Thing is, if you divide the money up and how much goes out on wages on etc......us WFP guys on our own still usually make more, and it's a much easier work day.

Go figure.

[H20cleaning]

Lol.

There quite a few brigades out there like that. Glass only and really quick.

Thing is, if you divide the money up and how much goes out on wages on etc......us WFP guys on our own still usually make more, and it's a much easier work day.

Go figure.

Oh i know i worked out they were charging £3.00 per house thats £21 for them 7 houses i try hit £20-30 an hour.
They also finish about 1 aswell 

I just dont understand how the man who owns the round (who doesnt work) lets them do such a crap job! You should see how many houses i take off them a year and they never say a word or even ask why!
1600 houses with an average price of £3.00, he employs 5 people pays them £30 a day. By the time he has collected all his money in he probs wont get that much! But i suppose he is about 25 stone lol

[Mick Kent]

Fair play i say, before wfp when i was on the ladders i had 2/3 others with me and although it looks rough and unproffesional i didnt care as it was bringing the money in and as we were all friendly and had a laugh customers didnt have a problem there being 3/4 or us in a street working as our banter and friendlyness bounced from us to my customers so was a good crack.. I sometimes miss the good old days.

[danny mckim]

Jealousy is a very sad disease m8!!

[H20cleaning]

Fair play i say, before wfp when i was on the ladders i had 2/3 others with me and although it looks rough and unproffesional i didnt care as it was bringing the money in and as we were all friendly and had a laugh customers didnt have a problem there being 3/4 or us in a street working as our banter and friendlyness bounced from us to my customers so was a good crack.. I sometimes miss the good old days.

I'm not knocking the guy who owns it i just think instead of employing smack heads he could buy some tshirts with logos on, charge a little but more do a better job and have a more sustainable round instead of loosing people all the time!
I very very rarely loose customers its usually only if they move away.

[Window Lickers]

He could do exactly that. But he was probably drug up to believe that cheap and cheerful is the best way. And that's the standard that some customers want. There's plenty of chancers out there, they come in the guise of customers as well as employers. Its the world we live in.

Some people shop at Sainsburys some people shop at Lidls.

[H20cleaning]

He could do exactly that. But he was probably drug up to believe that cheap and cheerful is the best way. And that's the standard that some customers want. There's plenty of chancers out there, they come in the guise of customers as well as employers. Its the world we live in.

Some people shop at Sainsburys some people shop at Lidls.

Not gunna lie i have started shopping at Aldi because i refuse to pay tesco prices for the same stuff!!!

[SeanK]

I know a guy who does the same I'm not joking 5 of them completed a mid size 3 bed semi in a minute.
The difference is this guy charges £12 for the property and gets away with it.
Its hard to argue that wfp is quicker when you see guys like this.

[Jonny 87]

I always think that WFP is only quicker like for like.

So one man, ladders cleaning all frames and ledges too,

Versus

One man, WFP everything.
WFP is quicker in those instances. But I could probably do glass trad quicker than frames/ledges and doors with WFP. If that makes sense.

Still would never go back to the olden days though.

[Window Lickers]

Trad is very very rarely quicker than WFP.


WFP is mostly quicker than trad, 95% of the time it is.




Two of us did a property today using the WFP method in an hour and a half. Trad to do it would take a single operative a day and a half.

[robertphil]

one things for sure,theyd never waste time takin photos of you

[Mick Kent]

Going back 10/20 years when all was trad, i dont think anyonecared about having a uniform etc! Well i inow i didnt in fact i dont realy now unless on commercial! a good apearence is all that is needed but as we are the bottom of the food chain in our customers eyes it realy doesnt matter what you look like as long as you do a good job.

[SeanK]

You don't have to do a good job in this business to succeed just stay away from fussy customers
or messers as I like to call them.

[PoleKing]

Lol.

There quite a few brigades out there like that. Glass only and really quick.

Thing is, if you divide the money up and how much goes out on wages on etc......us WFP guys on our own still usually make more, and it's a much easier work day.

Go figure.

Oh i know i worked out they were charging £3.00 per house thats £21 for them 7 houses i try hit £20-30 an hour.
They also finish about 1 aswell 

I just dont understand how the man who owns the round (who doesnt work) lets them do such a crap job! You should see how many houses i take off them a year and they never say a word or even ask why!
1600 houses with an average price of £3.00, he employs 5 people pays them £30 a day. By the time he has collected all his money in he probs wont get that much! But i suppose he is about 25 stone lol

Ask DannyMack, it's his house they're cleaning.

Perhaps the window cleaning is just a front.
1,600 customers where a smack head turns up regularly...
More things to sell than just window cleaning.
When's Richy out btw?

[rick trinder]

whats wrong with lidl's??

[ben M]

He could do exactly that. But he was probably drug up to believe that cheap and cheerful is the best way. And that's the standard that some customers want. There's plenty of chancers out there, they come in the guise of customers as well as employers. Its the world we live in.

Some people shop at Sainsburys some people shop at Lidls.

waitrose is better 

[H20cleaning]

Ask DannyMack, it's his house they're cleaning.

Perhaps the window cleaning is just a front.
1,600 customers where a smack head turns up regularly...
More things to sell than just window cleaning.
When's Richy out btw?
[/quote]
 Haha and nah the owner has nothing to do with drugs, he just employs druggies for cheap labor.
One women told me how she caught them on her cctv round the back of her house sitting on the patio chairs cooking food on her bbq whilst smoking a joint!! I just laughed and said "he wasn't entertaining a female was he? He might of been trying
To say your house was his own"
Who is richy lol

[steve rix]

You cannot tar all trad with the same brush (excuse pun)
We have been trad for 20 years, we do have wfp but charge a (large) premium for our services trad. All I want is happy customers and staff plus a few quid for me!!