[Window Lickers]

Aworka ticks all those boxes for me.

[bobplum]

Ok, so, £25 is too expensive?

The way I look at it, is, how much time does it save me?

To justify £25 outlay would have to save me very little time a month.

The facts are, this system saves me an hour a day easily, so putting that into context...say 25-30 hours a month? I value my time at way more than £1 an hour, as I'm sure you guys do.

Another perfect example is the Gardiners S2 which controls our water production. It paid for itself in a week due to the time it saved me.

That's my logic, saves me time, stress, and money, it's a winner.

Won't be for everyone, as some people would rather the money in their pocket, and that's their choice.

How does it save you time, that george  or aworka can not do

[Jack Harris]

Maybe a cheaper option with less features for 1 man bands then?
Then the pro version for people with more operatives 

[Jack Harris]

Forget what i said above as i didn't check the site out before typing haha

[Carl@Cwc]

I've been on the cleaner planner beta aswell and made a good input as to what I think I needed and rob was always and remains a good listener and most importantly he implements the changes and tweaks needed.

I was on aworka at the time cleaner planner first started and have to say the difference between cleaner planner and ALL it's competitors is HUGE.
My ideal software needed to have:

Drag and drop planner was vital.
Bulk text messages for access and debts. Including pre scheduled text option.
Gocardless integration which IMHO is the way forward in payments.
Multiple user options with admin controls. They see only what you decide which is the daily worksheet they need..
Android/iOS app for operators tablet and daily worksheet. No need to input data after from paper sheets just review data synced and submit it. That for me is an hour a day off my family life alone. Which is worth way more than £20/£25 a month.

As a multiple user operator it's good value at the prices mentioned as aworka is £10 per user . When I add a 3rd van to my cleaner planner account this year it will be a bargain in my opinion. An absolute steal to be honest . A piece of software that organises 3 vans works and texts and sorts debts and payments and keeps paperwork down to a minimum for £20/£25 . Multi van businesses are you for real .?.

I'm really keen on the coming sage payroll implementation and the really interesting van tracking option that is needed for a small business to keep us ahead of the game and I rest assured rob will do all he can to make it absolutely perfect.

As a point of reference I was in Tenerife Xmas and used my ipad to operate the business daily as cleaner planner  was in early progress by texting customers the day before and issuing worksheets whilst I was on my sunbed  inless than one hour and using 3GS lol. And I will do the same this year in way less time as all the features are there now.

If you are serious about your business and expanding it to its potential and want to offer a first class overall service & make it really simple then in my honest opinion you are missing out by not understanding and using cleaner planner
I'm sure rob is all ears with regards one man bands as he is interested in getting all cleaners on the software at the right price on a consistent basis as we expect from our customers on a regular basis,. I to be honest can't wait to the next level:
Tracked vans per round.
Gocardless payments.
Lower wages, higher incentives.
Less call backs on front onlys.
Less fuel costs.
More productivity.
Happy employees.

[Jack Harris]

After reading through the cleaner planner site & carls post I'm very interested in this software and will be signing up shortly 

[S.A.J]

Wish this had been released 6 months ago when we were looking at changing software 

Now with Aworka which is fine but needs some improvements so I hope Chris is reading this thread and taking notes 

[Dave Willis]

As said before it's too expensive for the sole worker. The basic programme misses the options that Aworka all ready has at a cheaper price.

For the bigger businesses it sounds great.

[Roy Harding]

But the £25 per month would be a business expense, hence tax deductible.

Roy

[Smudger]

SAJ - maybe give CP a whirl alongside Aworka on the free trial - yes it may mean you are duplicating your admin works for a couple of weeks, but I am sure you would find CP excellent, I know your business mould (as we ahev emailed in the past) is similar to ours.

Also the go cardless integration is FAB and a bi g time saver for any people using GC as an option, it literally is a click well maybe 2 clicks! To claim payment, no need to log into GC each time its all automated, and when its paid it auto takes it off your debt list, I am a big fan of cleaner planner - and it saves me lots of time but I have over 100 on GC and am pushing this lots going forward and I was truly surprised just how much time this one feature saves me.

Also we love the option of bulk email, newsletters to customers to offer promotions etc.

Every business is different and every need is different, WCP planner did what we needed, but it did not do what we WANTED, and that is where CP (and Rob) have been great, its really been designed by window cleaners.

I would highly recommend people to at least try the free trial and get a feel for it, we wouldn't be without it now.

and another big PLUS is Rob's support if you are not sure or get stuck HE IS THERE!!! It really is a very user friendly program.

[lee_dewing]

It maybe a business expense but is it a necessary one?

Yes it sounds good for those that employ.

But for 1 man bands i think it is too expensive.

If you really wanted to you could use a diary, pen and paper which most have in the past.

I have paid a one off fee of £50 and i pay the internet backup fee of £15 i think it is a year.

That's enough for me i believe as a small business that i should keep a diligent eye on expenses.

As said i am sure the guy who made cleaner planner has done a great job.

Lee

[Dave Willis]

But the £25 per month would be a business expense, hence tax deductible.

Roy

True, but to run it to it's full extent you'll need a smartphone too so add another £30 odd a month on top of that. Tax deductable doesn't mean free.

[bobplum]

It maybe a business expense but is it a necessary one?

Yes it sounds good for those that employ.

But for 1 man bands i think it is too expensive.

If you really wanted to you could use a diary, pen and paper which most have in the past.

I have paid a one off fee of £50 and i pay the internet backup fee of £15 i think it is a year.

That's enough for me i believe as a small business that i should keep a diligent eye on expenses.

As said i am sure the guy who made cleaner planner has done a great job.

Lee

+1

£180.00 a year or £15.00 for something that does same.
From what i have seen i think the multi operators will benefit from this programme more than the one man band, i appreciate if you are sitting in an office most of the time looking after 3 vans etc this will save time with a lot of the integration it offers with other systems, go cardless etc but imo for a one man outfit george or even aworka will suffice, so i think i will save my £180 and buy a new GIMP mask

[Dave Willis]

Zip it!

[bobplum]

 

Zip it!

[Smudger]

Small bump for those that might be curious and have some time this weekend to explore cleaner planner......

[Fin Clearview]

Wish this had been released 6 months ago when we were looking at changing software 

Now with Aworka which is fine but needs some improvements so I hope Chris is reading this thread and taking notes 

I'm with you on this, Aworka seems ok but the support and improvements seem lacking. Maybe it's a get what you pay for thing? My biggest fear with this software packages is the longevity of it, including it's support and upgrades. This is all but pointless without it.

[8weekly]

Wish this had been released 6 months ago when we were looking at changing software 

Now with Aworka which is fine but needs some improvements so I hope Chris is reading this thread and taking notes 

I'm with you on this, Aworka seems ok but the support and improvements seem lacking. Maybe it's a get what you pay for thing? My biggest fear with this software packages is the longevity of it, including it's support and upgrades. This is all but pointless without it.

My only gripe with Aworka is the server speed. It's like going back to dial up. Sometimes it doesn't respond at all.

[johnwillan]

Hi Fin, funny how different options can be I would say Chris provides excellent support and has continued to develop and improve the program.

[Fin Clearview]

Hi Fin, funny how different options can be I would say Chris provides excellent support and has continued to develop and improve the program.

Hi John, I can only speak of my experience to date with Aworka. I sent Chris an email on the 12th with various questions and so far I have not recieved a reply. Like I said to me it's important if you want to use a database system such as these is that the support and improvements are there continuously for as long as you are paying for the service. Regarding  Aworka on the app I find it basic. IMO it should almost replicate the online service, you cannot even enter a new job and the 'coming
Soon' banner which is on the new job icon has been there since I have had the app. I hope one of these systems does the lot.