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johnny bravo

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water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« on: April 23, 2014, 04:40:30 pm »
how many would prefer to use a heavy duty ratchet strap to secure tank,  rather than bolt a frame over there water tank

Simon Mess

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2014, 04:43:15 pm »
This is a real can of worms, you sure you want to do this? ;D

For what it is worth, as long as it is done correctly, ratchet straps are perfectly safe, despite what many on here are about to tell you ;)

johnny bravo

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2014, 04:48:00 pm »
its a case of keeping my water tank frame,   or selling it,     and just getting some 5 ton ratchet straps to secure it to eyelets in van,  or securing it to the bulkhead

duncan h

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 05:09:52 pm »
Thinking the same. Ratchet straps are safe for many tons on wagons, so we should be ok. Downside is, its not as neat. Straps may get in way.
Then again. No drilling van floor. Can be taken out quickly, so kids and dogs go in back  :D
If your using it for a few years, for nothing but its use. Drill away

johnny bravo

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 06:06:34 pm »
what would i expect to be charged if i got a garage to bolt it into van floor, you will need plates under floor to secure bolts and tank.
  most of pics ive seen are all strapped in to eye lets on van floor,    or secured to bulkhead via homemade alliminium lats or ratchet straps.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 06:19:57 pm »
What van have you got now?

dazmond

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 06:32:39 pm »


500L baffled tank and frame £400
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2014, 06:33:50 pm »


local garage fitted it through van floor for £100. ;) :)
price higher/work harder!

johnny bravo

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 07:37:55 pm »
did you need to supply anything daz,     or did you just arive with the tank and frame.    they supplied everything  to secure it.  100% safe

dazmond

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2014, 07:28:06 am »
the garage made the spreader plates.the bolts for the van floor were supplied with the frame.they had to drop the fuel tank and exhaust to fit it securely!

im well happy with it.the way the tanks been fitted(long ways)i dont get any sloshing about or seasick feeling at traffic lights with half a tank of pure! ;D

the tank and frame were bought from the cleaning warehouse and was delivered within 2 weeks. ;)
price higher/work harder!

Scrimble

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2014, 07:40:46 am »
No sloshing about dazmond? Yea right lol

Depends on the metal frame, if like dazmonds frame I'd rather have ratchet straps, but a proper metal frame is always better that straps

My tank is half down by metal straps so best of both

dazmond

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2014, 07:50:41 am »
No sloshing about dazmond? Yea right lol

Depends on the metal frame, if like dazmonds frame I'd rather have ratchet straps, but a proper metal frame is always better that straps

My tank is half down by metal straps so best of both

im very happy with it mate!cheap too compared to fitted tanks by suppliers!! :D :D :D :D
price higher/work harder!

AuRavelling79

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2014, 04:54:09 pm »
I have an angle iron frame (90 x 90 at the back. 75 x 75 sides and front) bolted through the floor to spreader plates and other bits of angle in certain places.

Then two 5 tonne ratchet straps wrapped around the (650L) tank "holes" three times each and tightened round the 90 x 90 angle.

The tank is against the manufacturers bulkhead.
It's a game of three halves!

Jonny 87

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2014, 07:33:25 pm »
I have an angle iron frame (90 x 90 at the back. 75 x 75 sides and front) bolted through the floor to spreader plates and other bits of angle in certain places.

Then two 5 tonne ratchet straps wrapped around the (650L) tank "holes" three times each and tightened round the 90 x 90 angle.

The tank is against the manufacturers bulkhead.

Do you know where to get those parts from? Uses I'm thinking it wrong. Is it a 90degree bracket type that you bolt through the floor and  the ratchet to that?

I'm probably thinking the wrong thing. Lol
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

AuRavelling79

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2014, 08:34:25 pm »
Jonny - go to a steel stockist and buy angle iron - I bought 75 x 75 mm and had it welded to the 90 x 90 to make a frame that the tank sits in.

Then as you say the frame is bolted through the van floor with plates or angle iron underneath and the ratchet straps wind round the tank through the baffle holes and the back of the frame (the 90 x 90 piece)
It's a game of three halves!

Jonny 87

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2014, 09:49:14 pm »
Jonny - go to a steel stockist and buy angle iron - I bought 75 x 75 mm and had it welded to the 90 x 90 to make a frame that the tank sits in.

Then as you say the frame is bolted through the van floor with plates or angle iron underneath and the ratchet straps wind round the tank through the baffle holes and the back of the frame (the 90 x 90 piece)

Got ya,

Thanks G.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

rick trinder

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2014, 10:36:22 pm »
i'm just not going to crash!!!! sellotape works for me!!! or a dab of no nails!!!
 
always looking on the BRIGHTSIDE!

Dave Willis

Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 07:36:56 am »
Daz's set up would scare the pants off of me I'm afraid. It looks as if the whole tank is relying on a one inch lip on the front of the base to prevent it sliding forwards.

dazmond

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Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2014, 07:51:02 am »
dave if it was in your van if would of slid forward and killed you by now! ;D ;D ;D

the bottom frame is bolted down by 6 bolts through van floor with spreader plates.

the top 2 frames are bolted to the bottom  frame and sit tight around the top of the tank.

the tank sits inside the frame.the frame is 2 inches thick made of steel.it cant jump up over the edge!

simple really.the frame is heavy as well.

price higher/work harder!

Dave Willis

Re: water tank frame vs ratchet strap
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2014, 08:04:35 am »
Two inches then  ::)roll

The tanks forward movement is only stopped by that lip - see what I mean?