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dan paton

  • Posts: 492
Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2014, 08:05:01 pm »
Has to be HP  ;D

jasonl

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2014, 08:19:14 pm »
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Radek Jablonski

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2014, 08:30:03 pm »
Jason you prices only a bit lower then mine but for shl definitelly too small. I charge for it 70e and no problem wit that with customers. Off course if only hsl done, for more then 2 areas prices are coming down per area.

clive ware

  • Posts: 540
Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2014, 08:53:03 pm »
Max - how much?? :o
I need to up my prices. I dont reckon i`ve changed them for the last 5 years!!

neil 47

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2014, 09:29:23 pm »
I charge the same as Jason , I've found if you creep up on them you need to start selling yourself and system or doing home visits . Measuring up testing selling protector etc and I just can't be bothered .

IICRC

wynne jones

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2014, 10:15:58 pm »
I think what Davep said is about right. Even a new carpet cleaner should be aiming for £50 an hour once up to speed. its more about confidence than anything.
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Andrew@Approved Carpet Cleaning

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2014, 10:50:04 pm »
So how do you work out the £50 min an hour, is that what you would expect from start to finish as in including travelling time, Chems, fuel, maintenance etc? Or is that £50 p/h once you reach the customers house? Just curious....
Andrew
Approved Carpet Cleaning of Flitwick
www.carpetcleaningbedfordshire.co.uk

neil 47

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2014, 01:57:14 am »
the per hr thing is wrong   you might only get 3 jobs a week at £50 so you earn £150

joe blogs earns £30 per hr but does 10  = £300

id rather do 3, but id rather have £300
IICRC

Simon Gerrard

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2014, 07:52:37 am »

If I was starting out again with a porty I'd probably pitch it around 45p per sq ft / £5 per sq m. We're now achieving higher than this, but we run a TM, and have been around a while.

So is your £5 per sq m including or plus vat.

Simon

davep

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2014, 08:00:27 am »
the per hr thing is wrong   you might only get 3 jobs a week at £50 so you earn £150

joe blogs earns £30 per hr but does 10  = £300

id rather do 3, but id rather have £300


If your getting 3 jobs a week there's something else wrong - not pricing.

wynne jones

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2014, 08:01:16 am »
the per hr thing is wrong   you might only get 3 jobs a week at £50 so you earn £150

joe blogs earns £30 per hr but does 10  = £300

id rather do 3, but id rather have £300

Personally I think its easier to get £50 an hour for 6 hours than 30 for 10. And the £50 is from day one, later they could earn more. But I agree the £/hr thing is a bit unhelpful in the overall picture of growing a business and making a good profit.  
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

jasonl

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2014, 03:48:43 pm »
Jason you prices only a bit lower then mine but for shl definitelly too small. I charge for it 70e and no problem wit that with customers. Off course if only hsl done, for more then 2 areas prices are coming down per area.



I bought a TM  and a 60 plate low mileage Cclass mercedes last week , shame Im too cheap.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Paul Clapham

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2014, 04:08:20 pm »
@ Jason , do you charge £55 for a lounge / diner no matter what size it is  or how long it will take ?

cheers

Paul.
This is the season for fine wine, and drunken friends, enjoy this moment, for this moment is your life.

jasonl

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2014, 04:22:51 pm »
Yes within reason , it makes little difference to me if it takes an hour or 90 mins , the time is in travel.

I do some common areas in flats , which are 3 flights of stairs , 4 halls.landings at £180 a time there may be 6 blocks like that on a site which take 2 of us 6 hours to clean , swings and roundabouts , menu pricing works for me . The time spent faffing , measuring , deciding on soiling levels, differentiating between 30/35m2  to clean , etc etc , factors such as distance to job , steps up to front door , furniture etc have a far bigger impact on the profitability  than just size ,  I dont think any of us would dream of charging extra for  there being steps up to a front door , or the customer being 4 miles across town , that is a 30 minute crawl through town.


We are in a customer SERVICE industry , and I make excellent profits by smilingly SERVING customers , carrying out a SERVICE , yes sometimes it is irritating and a pain to do this or that. but more often it is a simple easy way to earn a  good living with very low start up costs.

SWSWSWN!!

Some Will Some Wont So What..... Next!!
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

maxcampbell

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2014, 05:23:36 pm »

If I was starting out again with a porty I'd probably pitch it around 45p per sq ft / £5 per sq m. We're now achieving higher than this, but we run a TM, and have been around a while.

So is your £5 per sq m including or plus vat.

Simon

I deliberately left that open. We are VAT registered, and when we went over the barrier we upped prices by 20%, but we were due a price rise anyway. I am talking about fully inclusive prices, but the (domestic) customer doesn't care whether you pay VAT or not, and the price achievable for a given service doesn't change - the market price is the market price.

Of course, anyone starting out, and doing mainly domestics, would be foolish to register for VAT, so in the context of the question it is implied that no VAT would be payable out of the 45p / £5.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2014, 07:38:42 pm »
If you can sell at £5 a metre why not?

The trouble is that many cleaners can't it's not a matter of under valuing your service it's more personal and if you get 4 enquiries and don't get 3 of them then it can knock your confidence.

Shaun

Simon Gerrard

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2014, 08:19:01 pm »
And your bank balance :o
The trouble is £100 to clean a 20sqm living room is too much for many people to consider paying and so can lose you sales until you pitch your prices at a level that people in your locality will pay, excluding price shoppers, obviously.

Simon

Terry A McDonald

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2014, 05:35:59 pm »
I agree with Jason whose prices are very similar to our own.

Personally I dont see how per hour works - I do so many one room or stairs and landings in less than an hour and that includes setting up and breaking down that the customers will question the time factor. Where as a per room cost has never been challenged - if the job is well done customer is happy = recommendations!

Per room price works for me and I work hard at geographically grouping my work so cutting travel costs - it gives me fully booked diary 2 weeks in advance which is the maximum most people will wait.

Steve Chapman

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2014, 05:59:08 pm »
I really dont understand the whole room rate thing, not many other industries would price this way.
For us a 12 x 12 room could be £12.00 more than a 10 x 10, but to the eye they may look the same.

a few years ago i decided to go out and quote every new job and measure every square inch of carpet and im glad i did, as i still do it today.
When the customer sees you measuring and working out the prices they understand more fully your charge and why you've priced it that way, rather than plucking a figure out of the air !

I have very few people not book, and mostly we end up cleaning extra upholstery, leather, tiles etc because i'm there having a chat.

Also if they do haggle for a discount you can tell instantly if its viable or not, because of logistics, level of soiling etc.

I think if you dont go and see the customer, you could be losing a lot of profit & an opportunity to build a relatrionship.


Steve

mark shannon

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Re: How much do you charge?
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2014, 08:19:52 pm »
And your bank balance :o
The trouble is £100 to clean a 20sqm living room is too much for many people to consider paying and so can lose you sales until you pitch your prices at a level that people in your locality will pay, excluding price shoppers, obviously.

Simon
£120 including vat don't think many unless very rich are willing to pay that. Bigger areas you would be forced to heavily discount and look stupid.
What do chemdry charge these days?