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david@zap-clean

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Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« on: March 24, 2014, 03:52:09 pm »
I've just failed on a blood stained armchair.  It's cotton/viscose.  I tried the usual - lots of cold water flushing... Then used the full spot cleaning process. The 'best' progress was from giving it a good rub with a bar of natural soap!  Ultimately, I even tried a little sod-met.  I stopped when the fabric face started getting damaged.

Anyone have any other bright ideas what else could be done to improve this stain:


^^^a clean bit without blood on it


^^^ After my cleaning attempt
David @ ZapClean
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Simon Gerrard

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2014, 04:01:14 pm »
I think you've done a remarkable job, given how it was. Sometimes you just can't get it all out.

Simon

david@zap-clean

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2014, 04:05:01 pm »
Hi Simon, sorry I think I've mislead you.. the top photo is a clean bit that doesn't need spot treating.  

The lower photo is after I tried to clean the blood out.
David @ ZapClean
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benny d

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2014, 04:28:27 pm »
I presume you used rust remover.
Sorry to state the obvious!
BTW Ive never had blood on upholstery, but used on carpets works well.
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neil 47

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2014, 05:26:01 pm »
try it if you have nothing to lose ,worked for me after everything failed .

let us know results .


http://barnsleycarpetanduphosterycleaners.wordpress.com/blog/page/4/
IICRC

Paul Moss

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2014, 06:32:51 pm »
Rust remover  ;D

I look forward to the professional replies to this issue  :)

neil 47

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2014, 07:40:54 pm »


Rust remover prochem  = pants
Craftex  = brill




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Kev Loomes

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2014, 07:45:41 pm »
Hi David

I had a massive blood stain about 4 weeks ago, ok it was on carpet and not UPH, but even so it was a right mess - and she tried vanish etc on some of it.

I used cold SPM with some decent amount of enzymes and left to dwell. I then used (and please dont laugh) a george wet vac. It didn't initially move much (and I thought oh great it's not going anywhere!) but then gradually it started to lift. With patience it eventually all came out. It took me an hour but it was one of those jobs where I really couldn't be bothered to get the TM out!

So perseverance is sometimes needed. BTW I have used a mix of rust remover and water before to lift a blood stain out - sorry Paul lol  :D


John Kelly

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2014, 08:14:33 pm »
Never failed using enzyme detergent, Enzall or Craftex Pre-enzyme Solution used cold and left to dwell before rinsing. Peroxide to remove any remaining staining. Rust remover is to remove dark staining caused by Iron in the blood.

stuart_clark

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2014, 08:18:23 pm »
Well it is a Protein spotter ! ;D

peter maybury

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2014, 10:50:05 pm »
Salt water is very effective on blood. Just use some warm water to dissolve the salt then mix that with your cool water. Leave to dwell foe a time and just flush with more salt water.
Peter

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2014, 02:51:14 am »
Rust remover is great on blood  ??? But I would not be using it on that type of fabric without pretesting!! Be warned. I once made a small 5 pence piece sized pink stain using it on cotton fabric. Luckily it was no where to be seen as it was the pre-test. I tried to reverse it with baking soda but didn't do bugger all.

Enzall would be my choice for that (or your enzyme of choice but everyone knows enzall is the daddy). Mix it with hot 60 degree water to release the enzyme action and dissolve the product, then cool it down before applying it to the stain, then rinse.

Again, make sure you dry thoroughly before packing up.

neil 47

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2014, 07:37:09 am »
when using enzall ,  if your planning on having children check out the chems that are used it , Alkylphenol Ethoxylate

http://healthychild.org/easy-steps/avoid-alkylphenol-ethoxylates-apes-in-cleaning-products-and-more/

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david@zap-clean

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2014, 07:46:45 am »
Thanks for all the replies.  I tried many of them, but there's some new ideas in there for next time.

I put at least 20 litres of water through the stain (Sapphire tool) in the photo before backing off - there was no noticeable change.

Like many jobs, the price was agreed (fixed) before starting, and they'd had more than their monies worth at this point.
David @ ZapClean
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garry22

Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2014, 09:29:41 am »
David, this is on a similar line to Simon.

If you know someone with a Dry Fusion system, borrow a bit of Bactoshield and apply at the usual 4:1. The key here is to use it COLD.

Kinver_Clean

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2014, 09:56:30 am »
I would cold rinse as much as possible. The apply M-Power cold, dwell for 30 mins with a second light application half way and then rinse cold. Hot water will set the proteins. Rust remover might be required but I have had spectacular results with the above on upholstery as well as carpets.
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david@zap-clean

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2014, 02:48:34 pm »
Right, thanks to the helpful advice on here I've arranged to recall on this job and have another go - Thursday morning... Photo's to follow... ;)
David @ ZapClean
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mark_roberts

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2014, 04:22:51 pm »
Make sure you agree a day rate as with the number of replys above youll be there all day trying!!

Given the viscose content id tell them to ring their insurance co.

Mark

david@zap-clean

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Re: Failure on upholstery spot-clean
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2014, 05:20:30 pm »
Make sure you agree a day rate as with the number of replys above youll be there all day trying!!
Given the viscose content id tell them to ring their insurance co.

It's not insured.

Better than a day rate, I asked them how much it cost, £899, so I'll charge them £894 -
A win-win situation, they save £5 and I get a great learning experience  ;)
David @ ZapClean
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