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rycalshaw

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help please
« on: March 19, 2014, 03:59:10 pm »
hi, i,ve just had a call from a guy that said his dog had come into season and its made a mess of his carpet, has anyone else encountered this, any advice would be apprieciated..cheers

gwrightson

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Re: help please
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 04:59:03 pm »

Cold water only, never hot

I have found a protein spot remover gives good results,  blot using terry towel  be prepared for wick back , renown for wick back.

Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

neil 47

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Re: help please
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 08:18:24 pm »
ariel acti lift
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rycalshaw

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Re: help please
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 08:24:00 pm »
interesting neil, tell me more mate..

Carpet Dawg

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Re: help please
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 08:28:47 pm »
Blood?

Enzall will sort it.

neil 47

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Re: help please
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 08:58:51 pm »
Hi Rycalshaw


I looked after some dogs for an neighbour  and their daog came on season ,all over my sofa , i tried everything but as a last resort though washing powder has been used and made for stains over years of trials so i tried arial acti lift with a good long dwell and you can see the results here .

  http://barnsleycarpetanduphosterycleaners.wordpress.com/blog/page/4/

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Carpet Dawg

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Re: help please
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 09:15:09 pm »
forgot to say, speed dry the area you cleaned. Make sure its dry before you leave. This will stop wick back or give you the chance to re-treat if its wicking.

neil 47

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Re: help please
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2014, 01:31:14 pm »
Carpet Dawg , have a open mind


Here is the ingrediants of Chemspec's product Enz-All, for the professional carpet cleaner and a premium price.
 
Sodium Tripolyphosphate  ( Phosphoric Acid )
Now the above is used in Dishwashing Soaps, Laundry Soaps (Ariel Acti Lift) and Industrial Cleaners
 
Sodium Carbonate ( Soda Ash or Washing Soda )
Now the above is used in Dishwashing Soaps , Laundry Soaps( TIDE) Industrial Cleaners
 
Alkylphenol Ethoxylat ( Just a scary name for a wetting agent, or Emulsifiers these are known as surfactants )
Now the above is used just about everywhere and in 90% of all cleaning agents such as Dishwashing Soaps, Laundry Soaps ( Ariel Acti Lift) and Industrial Cleaners
 
Protease  ( This is a substance that is even in the human body as well as animals, what it does is breaks down protein, we need protese as part of our digestive functions, it is basically an enzyme needed to convert protein into Amino acids )
Now this is used anywhere we want to break down protein grease in the cleaning industry.....and once again it is used in Dishwashing Soaps, Laundry Soaps( Ariel Acti Lift ) and Industrial Cleaners.
 
Sodium Xylene Sulfonate ( Basically a Sodium salt ) This is added in small quanties to actually clean the chemical batch to allow the cleaning agent to bubble, very toxic . Again used in Dishwashing soaps ( Not all ) Laundry Soaps (Ariel Acti Lift), and Industrial Cleaners.
 
So, there you have it everyone.....your high priced Enz-all is the same as Ariel Acti Lift and most   Laundry Soaps at a fraction of the price.   :P
 
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garry22

Re: help please
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2014, 02:21:53 pm »
Brings to mind Eric Morecambe playing all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order  ;D  Interesting post Neil.

neil 47

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Re: help please
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2014, 06:59:43 pm »
Brings to mind Eric Morecambe playing all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order  ;D  Interesting post Neil.



Have you tried it ?

As stated I tried every carpet cleaning solution I had as a last resort I used ariel acti lift and it worked where the others didnt .
I did rinse it well and used a acid rinse if that makes you feel any better .

But as with a lot of cc machines, solutions it is somtimes just a lot of smoke and mirrors clean is clean .and this is clean
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Carpet Dawg

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Re: help please
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2014, 08:21:38 pm »
Neil, I'm not going to buy a tub of laundry detergent (designed for clothes by the way...) sitting in my van for the occasional blood stain.

As for using as general pre-spray. What dilution rate do you use in your 5 litre spray? you'd be guessing correct?

I use one tub of pre-spray a month or there about's. £25ish a month anit bad. How much Daz will you have to buy to make the same "effective" volume? You'd probably only be saving a few quid.

Can daz deal with black top and other nasties?

Plus the customer will smell it and think, WTF that's Daz he's using!!

neil 47

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Re: help please
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2014, 08:31:10 am »
Neil, I'm not going to buy a tub of laundry detergent (designed for clothes by the way...) sitting in my van for the occasional blood stain.

As for using as general pre-spray. What dilution rate do you use in your 5 litre spray? you'd be guessing correct?

I use one tub of pre-spray a month or there about's. £25ish a month anit bad. How much Daz will you have to buy to make the same "effective" volume? You'd probably only be saving a few quid.

Can daz deal with black top and other nasties?

Plus the customer will smell it and think, WTF that's Daz he's using!!


carpet Dawg

As usual your eyes and mind read one thing and your ego tells you something completely different  .

we were asked for a solution to someones problem .

I gave a solution that worked for me , Backed up by hard photo evidence and facts .

At no point did I say I used it on carpets or anything else .

Yes I do carry 3 small tubs of washing powder
  
1  Dreft for heavy soiling on leather if needed . i have foam cleaner from ltt which I use mainly
2  Ariel acti lift for blood and other stains
3 soda crystals

Products I use daily are ,power burst bit of oxy boost  occasionaly, shockwave 60% and dynall for the res,t odd bit of spm with a smartering of pure clean and for a change f90.

I have never cleaned carpets with washing powder as you can see i have a vast array of cleaning agents that I use , before even considering using daz but I never mentioned Daz, Daz is poop

My way is to use the easiest most cost effective way of cleaning with results . am i bothered about repeat customers for me I wouldnt even go out to a job like that as he wouldnt pay what I wanted for my time , and any time spent on it would be grief , why would you want to when you could easily do a full house in under 1.5 hours for far more pay .


I dont do stains and always tell them they wont come out .


Ps all of you try Acti lift it works thats all im saying as a solution to a problem


Dont forget the first pic is after I had tried all carpet cleaning recognised solutions on it, not before .
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Carpet Dawg

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Re: help please
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2014, 09:33:14 am »
So you carry 10 products. So much for saving money.  ;D

I'm sure it works but what's the point in using those products and risk damage to leather etc or risk the customer smelling the laundry soap when you already have what you need in the van? i.e. powerburst, dymall etc etc

neil 47

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Re: help please
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2014, 09:47:09 am »
So you carry 10 products. So much for saving money.  ;D

I'm sure it works but what's the point in using those products and risk damage to leather etc or risk the customer smelling the laundry soap when you already have what you need in the van? i.e. powerburst, dymall etc etc

Are you for real

I told you they are a problem solver , and apart from shockwave and dynmall i carry only citrus gel , surgical spirts,peroxide, and acetone  , mets and oh rust remover , browning presc ,talc,

oh your right I do carry a lot must be a pro  ;D
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Carpet Dawg

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Re: help please
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2014, 04:50:53 pm »
So you carry 10 products. So much for saving money.  ;D

I'm sure it works but what's the point in using those products and risk damage to leather etc or risk the customer smelling the laundry soap when you already have what you need in the van? i.e. powerburst, dymall etc etc

Are you for real

I told you they are a problem solver , and apart from shockwave and dynmall i carry only citrus gel , surgical spirts,peroxide, and acetone  , mets and oh rust remover , browning presc ,talc,

oh your right I do carry a lot must be a pro  ;D

eh? your the one that brought up the cost of using my suggestion for cleaning up blood.

Yeah that's it mate, swerve around the subject. You've still not answered my questions by the way... instead ask if I am "for real" and question my ego?!? what's that about?

As I said I am sure laundry detergents work BUT what's the bloody point in using them??????? << see that's a question Neil. And risk looking daft in front of a customer.

As you have said (to make yourself look like a pro  ::)roll) you carry all these spotters and rated carpet cleaning products, well there is your problem solvers right there! Enzall will to a ton of things (that I wont go in to detail here), a lot quicker, better and safer than your soap.

Please remember that it was you that questioned me about using enzall, saying that I should have an open mind and trying to argue the facts. I gave the OP good advice, especially about the drying of the treated area to combat wickback, as you as a pro will know is very common with blood.

This is actually quite funny as it was you that recently said in another post that most posts end in an argument! ha you should really take your own advice.

p.s. By the way, I would definitely stop using laundry soap on leather for a start.

neil 47

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Re: help please
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2014, 07:58:20 pm »
Dreft is ph neutral .
When you get your car washed do you care what they use , no

I did carpets in a Eco house they had spent hundreds of thousands making it Eco everything and had safe clean in to do her carpets and couldn't get rid of stains in her carpets , her words to me were I don't care what you use just make them clean all this right solution for this one for that is b******s .

I did a let today paint and oil stains all over  I used white spirits and he was over the moon as he thought he would need new carpets.

I use what's needed for each job . What I think I need not what you think I should use or what prochem recomend .

I know from experience what to use .
I listen and learn from others and then choose what's best and what works .
I'm sure enzall is good just never needed it .
You are right I wouldn't use washing powder for general carpet cleaning as they are designed to be rinsed far more than cc chemicals and smell to strongly but do solve a problem .

I'm going to get some enzal next week and test it next to Ariel and will post results
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Len Gribble

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Re: help please
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2014, 08:19:03 pm »
I know of someone using Seldon Strongarm It wasn’t Me!
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

wynne jones

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Re: help please
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2014, 08:42:22 pm »
I know of someone using Seldon Strongarm It wasn’t Me!

Just the tactics.  ;D
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: help please
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2014, 09:14:40 pm »
I have some strong arm in the garage it's great on hard floors not for soft furnishings IMO, on another note mike Halliday did some tests with washing powders at a training day he held (I wish he'd do another) the 2 problems I could see with washing powder is resoiling as it's not as easy to rinse and would it void your insurance if things when pear shaped?

Shaun

neil 47

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Re: help please
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2014, 03:39:35 am »
When I worked in mining one of the lads got covered in oil working on a machine .
He stripped off and jumped in a old oil drum full of water and got washed with a tub of swarfega .
He came out spotless but did smell a bit funny .

You wouldn't do it regularly but it worked at that time and situation .
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