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Ian101

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200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« on: March 15, 2014, 09:11:21 am »
Looking around at various options will be doing mainly drives and patios.

Last year did a stint with a gx390 250 / 15lpm which did the job but fancy something a little bit more powerful however most of the 21lpm machines Ive seen inside my budget are 200 bar will these be defeating the point of going for a 21lpm ?

Mike Halliday

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 11:54:11 am »
Higher flow will empty your wheelybin quicker so if you have a poor water supply it means stopping & starting.

But I would always go for higher flow above pressure (as long as you have min 3000psi)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

BDCS

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 08:20:26 pm »
The pressure is like speed and the flow is like weight , hit a wall on a pushbike at 20mph or a car at 15mph - what has the most effect ?

Tony Edwards

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 08:47:04 pm »
The pressure is like speed and the flow is like weight , hit a wall on a pushbike at 20mph or a car at 15mph - what has the most effect ?

So your advice ?

Flow or pressure ?

BDCS

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 11:02:35 pm »
Flow every time

Ben haigh

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 11:05:24 pm »
I have use of both these machine's 250 bar @ 15 ltrs & 200 bar @ 21ltrs.
If i set both machines up side by side the 200 bar @ 21ltrs machine will knock the socks off the 250 bar machine when doing driveway cleaning, but when roof & wall metal clabbing i need the extra pressure of the 250 bar machine to get the finished product.
When it comes to water flow on the 21ltrs machine you just use a extra water bin to store more water & set up straight away on site before you do anything else if you find a poor water supply.
Thanks    

BDCS

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 11:08:50 pm »
21 ltr pump machine can always be throttled back and fitted with a 45 nozzle to use 15 ltr / min

Ben haigh

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2014, 11:18:10 pm »
best way is to throttle the engine back & leave unloader numpty alone.
I get them looked or have k style unloaders fitted to save problems. (need a spanner to alter pressure)

BDCS

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2014, 11:54:48 pm »
best way is to throttle the engine back & leave unloader numpty alone.
I get them looked or have k style unloaders fitted to save prolems. (need a spanner to alter pressure)


Is the unloader a numpty or its operator and does he looked or someone slightly more technical - I'm impressed, very imformative  ???

Ben haigh

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 10:04:18 am »
Sorry but this is what it was meant to say
best way is to throttle the engine back & leave unloader numpty alone.
I get them looked or have k style unloaders fitted to save problems. (need a spanner to alter pressure)
Spelling check
Thanks

BDCS

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 07:32:43 pm »
Ah crystal  ??? You get numpty looked  :o

Blast Away

Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 07:54:27 pm »
21 @ 300 Bar  ;)

Ben haigh

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 10:16:25 pm »
the unloader numpty locked
What is happening to me, or is this the system.
If it changes the words again i give up.
ha ha

BDCS

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 10:46:44 pm »
Numpty

a) Someone who (sometimes unwittingly) by speech or action demonstrates a lack of knowledge or misconception of a particular subject or situation to the amusement of others.

b) A good humoured admonition, a term of endearment

c) A reckless, absent minded or unwise person
a) "No. That wisnae wit she meant, ya big numpty!"

b) i.e. "Silly billy", "You big dafty"

c) "That numpty's driving with no lights on!"
by cargo_4 May 20, 2004

Matt Gibson

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 08:09:07 am »
The forums swear filter changes the word kn0b to numpty

BDCS

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 08:24:26 am »
What about nipple ? Why is that ok and knoobs not ?

Ian101

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2014, 08:45:54 am »

Ian101

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Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2014, 08:47:02 am »
cheers fellas looks like 21 @ 200 bar then  :)

Blast Away

Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2014, 05:52:52 pm »
I know of a Falch T3H going but they want £11k+VAT. In Grays darn sarf.

elite mike

Re: 200 bar 21 lpm or 250 bar 15lpm
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2014, 05:59:41 pm »
lmao reading this thread  ;D ;D ;D ;D

swear filter in overdrive  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D