[chris scott]

Does not matter what goes in it ...it won't last as the joints are not wide enough. The joints will be weak.

The joints are fine you just like being negative. I guess your just not as good as me at pointing. I can point and get mix as hard as nails.
In fact I am brilliant at pointing.

Pointing should always be softer than the material being "pointed" to allow movement. The joints need to be compressed to be strong enough, The gaps on this project is nowhere near wide enough to allow the joint to have a compressed mixture that has enough material in it to be strong and allow movement. It will fail....Most geo fix jobs fail due to lack of compression ,people just brush it in. Similar to brushing in dry mix.
We also use this http://www.nccstreetscape.co.uk/PavementJointing.html
These are concrete flags not sandstone.

[Roger Oakley]

That's not Sandstone, it is precast concrete rivened slabs.
Needs deep cleaning and a total clean-out & re-point of the joins and not using the Geo-Fix S**T as that will fail.

Roger
You put this on while I was posting. Have you tried the Geo Fix in the Red Tubs?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd

No Kevin, I haven't as we don't do re-pointing, but have seen enough failures of this product, we are also seeing Rompox failures which was supposed to be the "the be all & end all" of these brush in type products/compounds, 365 is a good product to date, but like all these compounds time will tell.
The only way to point IMO is good old concrete mix done by a professional paver.

[Roger Oakley]

Hi roger, how can you tell ?

Darran

Experience Darren, that's all mate.

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Darren, do you not clean first then put hypo down to dwell ?
Roger, i mentioned 365 can i get a gold star for been teachers pet ! Ed 

[Kev Martin]

Roger

My preference is sand and cement mixed to apple crumble mixture with polymer, water and gardener mix then sweep it in and draw a hose down the joint to smooth it and pull the liquid to the surface I have never had a call back and it sets like steel. However it is difficult if you have never done it.  Recently been using the Geo Fix Pro and found it excellent as is the Sika Setting Sand but it is not as durable

Kev

[Roger Oakley]

Darren, do you not clean first then put hypo down to dwell ?
Roger, i mentioned 365 can i get a gold star for been teachers pet ! Ed 

Ed,
I don't do favouritism   just try to give honest answers.

Darren,
The other thing I meant to ask, are all the pavers/slabs sound? no rocking or movement? as if the answer is yes then no matter what you use will fail as the paver/slabs need to be sound in place so no movement so not to make the joins a weak point.

[Kenny83]

Any single pack slurry mortars / polymeric jointing compounds are crap, I have even seen bleach break Rompox back down to crumbs, you need a 2 pack epoxy mortor like GTFK 800 / 850 or Resiply Residual.
I cant comment on cement mixes as I have never used them but if the Roger and Simon recommend them then it will be very good too.

[Smudger]

Cheer Roger, as always very much appreciate your input.

Aqua, no I wet the area first, then hypo then clean, thus far I've not done huge areas a And tend to only use it on concrete based areas. Other than OT8 for oil everything has come up superbly well using the above or straightforward water only

But remember I'm a noob at this, and have lots to learn, what I see Roger and the others clean, how they know what stone is what type, what chemical to apply amazes me, I just hope that I can take it all in and become as good as the big 4 who post great stuff on here

Darran

[Roger Oakley]

Roger

My preference is sand and cement mixed to apple crumble mixture with polymer, water and gardener mix then sweep it in and draw a hose down the joint to smooth it and pull the liquid to the surface I have never had a call back and it sets like steel. However it is difficult if you have never done it.  Recently been using the Geo Fix Pro and found it excellent as is the Sika Setting Sand but it is not as durable

Kev

I might have not used Geo-S**T but do know a member on here that used it endlessly and to his cost? it failed, It may have worked for you, and as I said don't want to get into a big "Hall type" debate but I do know enough pavers and stone suppliers that would just laugh at the use of this product, plus as I said I have seen enough DIY and so called professionals work where this product has failed so I can't recommend it.

[Smudger]

Yes all the slabs/pavers are rock solid, even the edges

I would like to point the area because I think it's going to look a little odd with a mix of filled joints and areas of empty joints

Darran

[chris scott]

Yes all the slabs/pavers are rock solid, even the edges

I would like to point the area because I think it's going to look a little odd with a mix of filled joints and areas of empty joints

Darran

Cut out the joints and slurry point it.

[BDCS]

I tell them I'm a cleaner and just clean and give them a phone number for someone who is prepared to kneel down all day scratching about. I have thousands invested in gear and want to be out working it. You can shove your pointing, geo dogs poo or whatever where its dark cos I don't do it - I can understand if you run a petrol washer then you probably make more if the washers not running  

[Roger Oakley]

Yes all the slabs/pavers are rock solid, even the edges

I would like to point the area because I think it's going to look a little odd with a mix of filled joints and areas of empty joints

Darran

Then in cases like these it's a total repoint Darren, no matter what you use. Homeowners do sometimes want the cheapest option, just a patch or fill-in here and there, then get p***ed off when there's a colour difference with the new pointing. Just be careful.

[Simon@Pristine Pathways]

This is more exiting than the great british bake off...we could have the great british point off.

If have a picture on my website of that stone cleaned and pointed header picture 6, path in middle and circle. Did a few years ago and recleaned a couple of times still  like rock.

Pointing one next week if you were closer you good come and get a lesson.

[Roger Oakley]

This is more exiting than the great british bake off...we could have the great british point off.

If have a picture on my website of that stone cleaned and pointed header picture 6, path in middle and circle. Did a few years ago and recleaned a couple of times still  like rock.

Pointing one next week if you were closer you good come and get a lesson.

And get what's is name Paul Hollywood, could come and massage the pointing mix like he's does with the bread dough and get the ladies all excited     

[Aqua Power Solutions]

BDCS, You leave us petrol heads alone..... !!!  

[Smudger]

Nice site Simon.

Did you re point all of that by hand with mortar or something like geo fix ?
Either way how long did it take?

I also noticed in the pics you lance your drives, is that standard or do you use FSC in the main.

Cheers Rodger, it's about being prepared if the customer asks, I'm happy to give options from us just cleaning through to re pointing, as long as I have a reasonable grasp of what's involved and the processes along with the pitfalls

Darran

[Kev Martin]

Roger

My preference is sand and cement mixed to apple crumble mixture with polymer, water and gardener mix then sweep it in and draw a hose down the joint to smooth it and pull the liquid to the surface I have never had a call back and it sets like steel. However it is difficult if you have never done it.  Recently been using the Geo Fix Pro and found it excellent as is the Sika Setting Sand but it is not as durable

Kev

I might have not used Geo-S**T but do know a member on here that used it endlessly and to his cost? it failed, It may have worked for you, and as I said don't want to get into a big "Hall type" debate but I do know enough pavers and stone suppliers that would just laugh at the use of this product, plus as I said I have seen enough DIY and so called professionals work where this product has failed so I can't recommend it.

Roger

You should know me well enough by now!  Not getting into anything!  We are discussing it like adults and at the end of the day Geo Fix Pro All Weather is only a glorified expensive version of what I was shown how to make by a guy who had been laying paths and patios for 40 years.  Good point by the way about the firmness and fixing of the slabs to the substrate

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

[BDCS]

BDCS, You leave us petrol heads alone..... !!!  

I'm a petrol head just not when its business and its cheaper to run diesel

[Simon@Pristine Pathways]

BDCS, You leave us petrol heads alone..... !!!  

I'm a petrol head just not when its business and its cheaper to run diesel

You seem to be obsessed with the diesel v petrol. The way I look at it is I mainly do domestic so might be a bit different. I charge a customer say £600 for a clean using petrol and I could do the same clean for £35 in diesel does the £25 matter? If I was bothered about it iwould charge them £625. Just my opionion on it.
Simon x