[Darran Pryce]

for encap?  If so what results have you had from it.

Thanks
Darran

[Paul Redden Countryfresh]

Have used surround on common area's, was using a pad, but got a better result with a brush. Had to take
a small hwe machine for wicked up stains and a few stubborn marks, good results and nice smell, but
haven't used dynamall to compare

[John Klucznik]

This is what they say in the states.

http://bonnetpro.com/encapsulation/forum.html

http://bonnetpro.com/encapsulation/uscleaners_ultra_brightall.html

Not trying to disrespect this forum. Just trying to off answers to the question.

[Len Gribble]

I will soon find out! Normally use Dynamall! What happened to the smell bring it back!!!!!

[stuart_clark]

Len

I use a fair amount of Dynamal but get complaints about the odour,  after speaking to Lyn Kelly today she tells me thay have reduced the smell which I think is good news as the stuff works brilliantly
so watch this space I have a fair ammount of commercial cleaning to do in the next 6 weeks

[Darran Pryce]

Stuart, your right about the smell.  The smell was that strong it made people cough.  We did 12000m2 of office space a few months back, used dynamall, made everyone cough, including me and my operators!

Smell is great and lasts a long time, but more importantly the finished product is excellent.  Just expensive an expensive encap product.  If they doubled the strength then well worth it.   

[stuart_clark]

I think Dynamal now is one of the most economic encaps on the market! @ £25 for 4  litrees compared to surround which is £29.99 for 3.78 litres and releasit starts from about thirty quid and goes anything up tu £40  saying that I have'nt used releasit so maybe I shoukd not comment on it
got some large offices to clean next week and armed with the new less punjent Dynamal I will have to see how it performs, I use it at 10 to 1 prespray and ten to 1 in the bucket also not sure what other folk use it ?

[Darran Pryce]

You will get more value for money with surround... Surround is Super Concentrated!  http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15094/Products/0006l&ViewAction=ViewProduct

I'll try some see what it's like.  We have some NHS offices to do in a few weeks.

[stuart_clark]

The thing with Dynamal, its got hydrogen peroxide and that  helps greatly with the likes of tea/ coffee stains

[mark_roberts]

Stuart

How do you use it?

Prespray I get but whats the bucket for??

Is this using a cimex or rotary with a tank?

Pads, bonnets or brush?

Just curious.

Thanks
Mark

[stuart_clark]

Mark

after a thorough vacume of floor covering, the carpet is conditioned eith hot Dynamal at 10 / 1 then left for about 5 mins to dwell then the bonnet is  absorbed the same chemical  from the mop wringer at the same dilution rates , I Always find that bonnt cleaning using this method you will achieve much better results as the bonnet does not dry out and the chemical given a five min dwell time  makes all the difference ! Certainly with Dynamal as its peroxid
e basec

[JandS]

I've always used it as pre spray and brushed in and left.

[cannon]

I believe you can boost surround with some sodium percarbonate if required.

[stuart_clark]

Dynamal is already boosted with Hydrogen Peroxide

[John Klucznik]

Bonnet Pro, the makers of Surround now offers a hydrogen peroxide based encap called Revive iT Confidence and it has a tropical berry scent that is very pleasant and mild.
Here is the link.  http://bonnetpro.com/encapsulation/revive-it.html

Maybe NSL Restormate will bring it in if you request it.

[Jamie Pearson]

If you look at the concentrations/dilutions of Releasit and Surround you will see that they are much higher than other products on the market making their cost in use much more favourable.

[Jamie Pearson]

oh, yeah then there is HOS Environ which can run up to 1:128 if situations allow.

[*Hector*]

I use Environ at 1:64 as standard dilution rate, and 1:32 if carpet is minging..

works out at a very good value for money rate..

 

[Darran Pryce]

What is a great dilution rate and works a treat, (encap) 2 scoops (3 scoops if really, really bad) of spm in 15L of water, sprayed left to dwell for 5 mins then agitated.  Every time carpets come up great.  Put some  http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15094/Products/0088&ViewAction=ViewProduct  all never fails.

[JandS]

Try the cotton one Darren, especially on suites, it smells gorgeous.