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Darran Pryce

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2014, 06:15:40 pm »
We have some cotton too.  We purchased a good selection of them.  Dilution rate is very good too.

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2014, 07:49:40 pm »
Jamie

I have compared your brand of releasit Hydrox compared to Dynamal and there isn't much difference in the dillution figures, ok the surround dilutes at 60 to 1 but is it as effective as a peroxide based encapp ?  I would beg to differ!I have tried the surround encap in the past but I diddnt gel with it

I may in the future try your releaseit products ie  ds and punch for maybe normal cleaning conditions

Stuart

David Ware

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2014, 09:13:20 pm »
Bonnet Pro, the makers of Surround now offers a hydrogen peroxide based encap called Revive iT Confidence and it has a tropical berry scent that is very pleasant and mild.
Here is the link.  http://bonnetpro.com/encapsulation/revive-it.html

Maybe NSL Restormate will bring it in if you request it.
I would give your Revive iT range a good try if Restormate take stock. Just used the Surround free on 1000 metres today, very pleased if they added HP would have been a benefit with tea and coffee stains.
David

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2014, 11:25:15 pm »
Will have to have a word with Mr  and Mrs Kelly

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2014, 05:25:18 pm »
Who supplies inviron ?

David Ware

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2014, 06:24:22 pm »
Who supplies inviron ?

It's Environ and Amtech and Cleaningsystems UK supplie
David

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2014, 12:03:39 pm »
I have been cleaning some comunal areas in a very large sheltered complex approx 1500 sq mts and been using the new batch of Dynamall ! The fragrence has been much reduced but so has the  the cleaning ability of the solution, think I might try somthing different next time

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2014, 12:42:46 pm »
Is this a job you have cleaned previously with Dynamall?

The reason I ask is we often get comments like this when perfume or colour of a product has changed.

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2014, 03:37:26 pm »
Yes as I explained to john kelly this morning its the  4th time ive cleaned with Dynamall ! We clean it every three months and this is the fouth clean, but this is the first time with this batch of Dynamal,

Darran Pryce

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2014, 07:55:19 pm »
In what way has the Dynamall change Stuart (Cleaning wise)?   SPM works really well with some nice smelly added to it. 

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2014, 08:16:54 pm »
It just seem to cut through the dirt like it used to, saying that I will probably still use it for certain jobs as they dont realy get that dirty anyway and the odour is  kept to a minimum

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2014, 10:34:55 pm »
We tried dynamall and hated the smell (so did the clients) and wasn't overly impressed with the results compared to SPM in fibre shampoo with cotton fresh deodoriser.

Simon

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2014, 11:10:33 pm »
So you mix spm with fibre shampoo and cotton fresh ! That must leave a hell of a lot of residue?

neil 47

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2014, 11:24:57 pm »
Ive been using shockwave on the heavily soiled areas and finishing of with dynmall with great results
IICRC

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2014, 11:29:53 pm »
But shockwave is a high ph enzyme prespray and designdd to be thoroughly rinsed out

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2014, 11:31:36 pm »
You mix just enough fibre shampoo to give you a whitening effect basically so you can see where you have cleaned and provide an encapsulation element and a dash of deodoriser to add a pleasant smell, but that's optional.
Not sure what the residual elements are from encap products are but I assume they are similar.
Simon

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2014, 11:45:13 pm »
Well the spm and the fibre shampoo are ionic and the deodouriser is kationic which means they dont mix! Hence the residue thats left in tbe carpet assuming you are bonnet or encapping  and not rinsing all products out from the carpet

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2014, 12:16:16 am »
That's if you choose to put a deodoriser in it.
I have also used Surround which I think is good and have tried Realisit which is also good, I think it comes down to 'horses for courses'

Simon

stuart_clark

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2014, 08:59:34 am »
Getting back to the topic of surround I have used it some years ago but diddn't like it as much as my regular encap at that time which was Fusion Clean ! I might try the release it range or the environ when John starts stocking it, but ive been back this morning to the instalation I was at yesterday with some of the older Dynamall product and apart from the choking odour it definately works a lot better

stuart

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Anyone used Surround
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2014, 10:36:18 am »
Just to clarify on the above

John @ Restormate has Surround & Dynamall

Jamie(me) @ Cleaning Systems UK has Environ & Releasit