[Paul Moss]

Can't see the first vid.

Just put a steamer over it Mike, that will clean it lovely 

[Mike Halliday]

sorry just fixed it for public viewing, it might make more sense now

this video malarkey is complicated stuff     I should stick to reading Google for knowledge rather than taking a hands on approach

[Simon Gerrard]

The wet test is all fine if you're just trying to determine whether or not the fabric is wet cleanable, or if the dyes are stable but on the fabric in the first clip I would be far more worried about cleanabiility, especially on the lighter versions of that same fabric, because when dirty can be a real challenge to get clean and then there is the lengthy drying time to worry about. So I tend to see these problem fabrics from a different perspective which is more about what the client gains from the finished product, which is sometimes open to question because of the nature of the fabric.

Simon

[peter maybury]

If you see the fabric as problematic to clean and you refuse to do it, the customer will quite simply go to a competitor.
There are additives that can make the prespray more effective and faster drying, it is a learning process that makes you better at what you do.  As for fibre identification it is not something that you can do by photographs unless you are able to recognise specific products. These fabrics are common so it is better to  be proficient with them.
Peter

[Simon Gerrard]

"There are additives that can make the prespray more effective and faster drying, it is a learning process that makes you better at what you do........"

Which culminates in you knowing which ones to leave well alone because you know that the customer is wasting their money, regardless of the the fact that they may go to a competitor merely to find out I was right and that is where the best part of forty years experience comes into play.
Simon

[peter maybury]

I would get the stain out in the first place, and gain a satisfied customer rather than letting one of my competitors make me look ineffective.
Peter

[Simon Gerrard]

We both know that stain is unlikely to come out of that type of fabric, especially with it being ink. If you do, you do but if you don't the customer has seen what lengths you've gone to get it about and will accept the outcome and not go rushing off to a competitor.

Simon

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

Chance of complete success are low especially as the ink has already been run.

I would start with Isopropanol and go from there with other solvents but you will probably find it doesn't look much better so maybe better to walk.

Cheers

Doug

[ian harper]

this is a great example where cleaning becomes restoration. big difference. spots can be cleaned stains are damage and have to be restored.

restoration carries a much higher risk and customer expectation.

charge accordingly.

[Joebagbanana]

Chemspec-Europe have just released a new spotter:- TIG that does not require rinsing. I've only tried it on a carbon on cotton velvet with limited success. It's less aggressive than POG. Worth having to hand