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Lee Burbidge

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2014, 03:59:58 pm »
Quality journalism there.

And now, back to our weatherman in the studio.

"So, where's this rain from?  Should we of been worried about it?  What can our viewers do to avoid this rain stuff?"

Weatherman: "Use an umbrella, dude, they are usually have some use".

Thanks mate, and that's all from us here in Chepstow for toonight.

Its real funny to me when you miss the point.

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2014, 04:01:21 pm »
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Must admit, I was a bit baffled in the point of this interview?

I'm baffled as to the point of anything lee burbidge says and does.

I dont know you Pete and never spoke to you. Feel free to ask me something that you are unsure about :)

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2014, 04:02:42 pm »
Must admit, I was a bit baffled in the point of this interview?

To raise awareness perhaps, so nobody else ruins a perfectly good SL-X. Plus, it makes for a good read, especially Alex's response.

 ;D

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2014, 04:19:24 pm »
Not some but all may I add need to be aware as is basic 101 risk assessment stuff

This is a real hazard that some of us window cleaners have to be aware of.
Particularly when doing guttering/fascia cleans on some properties.


 :) what crops up a lot I have noticed in covering such stories, is no risk assessment carried out visually or written or considered. Window Cleaners are aware of most overhead cables but still do not give the wide berth they need by approaching a job differently. I do slightly disagree with one comment Alex makes, mind regarding window cleaners and awareness....

WCM: Do you think there is enough awareness on this hazard?

Alex: I think so, most clients are aware of this fact about overhead wires as they had to be when using aluminium ladders previously in the industry. Also every pole we sell has a warning printed on it.

For me a sticker on a pole is not enough awareness and in most cases an extended telescopic pole is more likely to hit overhead power lines than an extended ladder since most ladders are rested below or around the sill area which is much lower than where you need to start cleaning a window with a wfp. If the building was 3 story near to overhead lines then I would agree with Alex's statement more so IMO.

Hence the point of the blog entry no matter how unfulfilling it may appear to one or two :)



Dave Willis

Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2014, 05:47:03 pm »
i brought up the danger of powerlines about six years ago and was laughed off the forum (nothings changed  ;D)

Basically it's up to each individual to do a visual risk assessment for every residential job. I've touched powerlines accidentally in the past but I've been lucky - they were well insulated. Different powerlines carry different current. Obviously cleaning near an overhead pylon with a carbon pole is probably not a good idea.  I've turned down guttervac jobs too because of power cables.

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2014, 06:38:45 pm »
I have a pic of a window cleaner working underneath a pylon... thats if I can up load it to this...

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2014, 06:40:49 pm »
i brought up the danger of powerlines about six years ago and was laughed off the forum (nothings changed  ;D)

Basically it's up to each individual to do a visual risk assessment for every residential job. I've touched powerlines accidentally in the past but I've been lucky - they were well insulated. Different powerlines carry different current. Obviously cleaning near an overhead pylon with a carbon pole is probably not a good  I've turned down guttervac jobs too because of power cables.

 ;D ;D ;D

Smurf

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2014, 07:10:50 pm »
Lee me old mate his ladder is way too short methinks to be anywhere near those unisulated power lines  ;D
But be warned folks if doing highrise stuff near high voltage unisulated power lines the high voltage current can jump to a wfp pole even just 2 meters away so you would not ever need to touch them.

You will only do it once as you will not walk away from that mistake for sure.

I have a pic of a window cleaner working underneath a pylon... thats if I can up load it to this...

TLC

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2014, 07:23:38 pm »
Wow, the wcm interviewer is clearly not the brightest spark around

Smurf

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2014, 07:32:45 pm »
This is an interesting doc to read if anyone is interested.
http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/library/downloads/emf-property-02-2013-01.pdf

Also give pics of different types of power lines and the voltage they carry

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Gardiner Pole Systems - Shocking....
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2014, 05:29:50 pm »
Wow, the wcm interviewer is clearly not the brightest spark around

You are entitled to your opinion. Hardly the conclusive deduction of the century mind.....