[PoleKing]

as a self employed W/C averaging a £220 a day i would want the same as i can earn from my work
if i did not have a round but was given say 3 days a week i would probably subby for £150.- £180.00 depending on travelling etc

I think, in my opinion, the whole point of subbying etc is to make a profit from the subby, so if his pricing high and getting close to the point were there is very little profit then look for a cheaper subby, the profit margin determines his value to you

This is the problem.

So, CIUers, we're looking at £120-£150 a day?
£200 at a push?
As a rough average...?

[capn sparkle]

I know of 2 local firms who pay their subbys 75% but that includes all collections (bar on-line)..

If they are cleaning and collecting subbys are running a 'micro business' for you.

They in turn can employ anyone they wish to help out / the more the merrier.

Any new customers 'belong' to the firm but 100% of first clean goes to the subby wc.

I get the impression your man is a leader, if that's the case he's probably worth the extra £10 at this time of year.

£90 + 12% = £100

And you've got a bargain on the other two.

Regards

Glenn

[capn sparkle]

£100
£70
£50

Just a guess!! but the maths add up.

Hope they're not on this forum.

 

[PoleKing]

No, they're not on the forum.

Money-nope.
£100, trad only. (Works like a trooper)
£150, for 400 litre guy (good poler, slow trad)
£200, for 300 litre guy but a leader. (Reasonable pole, reasonable trad-leader)
Work is all within 1/2 hour.

£200 guy used to be £175.
He's making more a day on his own round so thought he could put up his day rate to reflect that.

I thought the money was fair...

[capn sparkle]

I'm sure I read earlier in this string that your subbys provide - van, water and everything else bar the customers - if that's the case (without me having to re read the whole lot) then IMHO you are, if not at the top, very near to the summit of the pay scale.

BUT!! if they are good, honest and your custies don't hate them...

Not sure where you can go from here tho. One more pay rise mebbe breaks the bank.

Kind regards

[LT carpet cleaning]

If you were paying a subby £150 a day I think that is very reasonable.

Certainly better than the offerings of £7 an hour from some on here.

[PoleKing]

I'm sure I read earlier in this string that your subbys provide - van, water and everything else bar the customers - if that's the case (without me having to re read the whole lot) then IMHO you are, if not at the top, very near to the summit of the pay scale.

BUT!! if they are good, honest and your custies don't hate them...

Not sure where you can go from here tho. One more pay rise mebbe breaks the bank.

Kind regards

It's commercial, they never have to deal with the customer.
Turn up, clean, home.

I wasn't looking to get rid, just seeing what the 'going rate' is.
The thing is that I trust them.
Like someone said, that is more important than the extra few quid.
As an aggregate it's £150 a day so not bad money IMO.

[geoffreyspecht]

I think it might be hard to get realistic/sensible/accurate figures here, just because most of us ( so I'm lead to believe ) run our own biz, so our day rates would be on par with your day rate with little room for your override

Not to willy wave but 8w is well below what I'd be asking for.

You have to weigh it up does the expensive guy do more work, is it good quality work ie no snags, does he shift out a good amount a day ?  If so pay him, if not get shot.

Not sure what or how to pay a subby. Who supplied all his own WFP gear, water and van,  maybe £120 per day + completion bonus (£30) or 35 to 40% or the days work

Darran

i would want at least 70% of the days work

That's the trade off from what we earn from our own work to what we would want from subbing ( why subby for less than I can generate from my own work ) but is it business sense to pay some one 70% for work I have sourced, organised, quoted and have to collect from etc..

People who "just" subby get given the work hassle free get paid regardless of weather the customer pays or not etc...  So it's a fine line on what's right for both parties

Darran

I don't think he was serious bud.
Unless splitting 70/30-30 going to subby.
I don't work like that. I only pay day rate.

whats your day rate

[supernova77]

I would be willing to pay a subby £120 - £150 a day depending on equipment and experience.

All they have to do is turn up and clean - no hassle etc...

Andy

[PoleKing]

I think it might be hard to get realistic/sensible/accurate figures here, just because most of us ( so I'm lead to believe ) run our own biz, so our day rates would be on par with your day rate with little room for your override

Not to willy wave but 8w is well below what I'd be asking for.

You have to weigh it up does the expensive guy do more work, is it good quality work ie no snags, does he shift out a good amount a day ?  If so pay him, if not get shot.

Not sure what or how to pay a subby. Who supplied all his own WFP gear, water and van,  maybe £120 per day + completion bonus (£30) or 35 to 40% or the days work

Darran

i would want at least 70% of the days work

That's the trade off from what we earn from our own work to what we would want from subbing ( why subby for less than I can generate from my own work ) but is it business sense to pay some one 70% for work I have sourced, organised, quoted and have to collect from etc..

People who "just" subby get given the work hassle free get paid regardless of weather the customer pays or not etc...  So it's a fine line on what's right for both parties

Darran

I don't think he was serious bud.
Unless splitting 70/30-30 going to subby.
I don't work like that. I only pay day rate.

whats your day rate

I don't work for anyone anymore so haven't got one.

[PoleKing]

I would be willing to pay a subby £120 - £150 a day depending on equipment and experience.

All they have to do is turn up and clean - no hassle etc...

Andy

Do you sub anyone now bud?
Do you pay £150?
How have you found the lads work for that money?
Problem is (I've found) that a lot of guys (not just on here) say, 'i wouldn't bother for less than £300 a day' or whatever but then there's my bit to go on top which gets slimmer as the sub rate goes up...

[Mitchellmoxo]

I do min 120 a day plus diesel cost if doing sub work which is what im happy to earn as a hassle free 120 in your pocket

[Tom Mac]

Depending on the traveling and aggro factor. Between £150 and £180.00 per day Inc travel time.

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

I subbed some work out to Steve C who comes on here.


I paid him £27.50 a day. He wasn't really worth more than that. I think after I paid him I made a tenner out of the day. 

[edward1]

its not easy ,but if your making 25% then that's about average.if your getting no complaints and no one is nicking your jobs and you trust the guys ,then your doing ok.

I had a subby I was paying over 2k a month to and it didn't stop him being underhand.

[PoleKing]

its not easy ,but if your making 25% then that's about average.if your getting no complaints and no one is nicking your jobs and you trust the guys ,then your doing ok.

I had a subby I was paying over 2k a month to and it didn't stop him being underhand.

There's potential for anyone to screw anyone over no matter how much they're being paid.
Money is like drinking sea water. The more you have, the more you want.
No, 2 of the lads I absolutely trust 100%, implicitly. The third-not far behind.
My best mate stabbed me in the back, he tried to do a massive amount of damage, last year. (He didn't succeed at anything but ruining himself, but the intent/malice was there) So I am always wary now. (Perhaps a bit jaded but contented)

Seems like I'm toward the upper end of the scale then. Paying about the median of quoted day rates but making a lot more than 25% out of the lads.
Quite pleased with that.