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PoleKing

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What would you charge...?
« on: January 23, 2014, 01:15:31 pm »
I have a few lads sub for me.
One of them has just put his day rate up by 12%.
He is now 30% more than another lad and 100% more than another!

I'll post figures after I've had a few opinions but just wondered what you guys would charge me for a days work?
8-5 couple of tea breaks & lunch (bring your own)
Your van and c. 300-400 litres Upto 30ft.
When water runs out tradding inside.
Easy work really. One park up.

I'm not looking at £1,000 a day lads just ad hoc, extra days here & there, East Midlands, extra money on top of you finishing your round.
And I'm not looking to get anyone else, just seeing if these lads are worth what they're charging...
Day rates please...
(Without willy waving)
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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8weekly

Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2014, 01:23:41 pm »
If I needed work, £150-£200. Now, for those hours £300 and even then it would be more of a favour.

Actually, in truth I just wouldn't do it.

PoleKing

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2014, 01:33:04 pm »
Thanks for your honesty 8w.
I'd like a few opinions to gain an average out...
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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8weekly

Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 01:33:57 pm »
Oh, and one park up means hard work surely? Poleing all day.

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 03:09:49 pm »
for those hours £300 and even then it would be more of a favour.

Actually, in truth I just wouldn't do it.

What she said  ;)

PoleKing

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014, 03:19:27 pm »
Oh, and one park up means hard work surely? Poleing all day.

Not at all. Poling all day at less than 30ft.
Doesn't get easier IMO...
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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gary999

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 03:27:38 pm »
If i was to go by my average hourly rate, for those hours £225

I dont do that many hours anyways ;D and im off to the airport
in a couple of hours,so there is no chance Dirty of you getting a
person of my quality on the cheap ;D

Smudger

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2014, 03:29:43 pm »
I think it might be hard to get realistic/sensible/accurate figures here, just because most of us ( so I'm lead to believe ) run our own biz, so our day rates would be on par with your day rate with little room for your override

Not to willy wave but 8w is well below what I'd be asking for.

You have to weigh it up does the expensive guy do more work, is it good quality work ie no snags, does he shift out a good amount a day ?  If so pay him, if not get shot.

Not sure what or how to pay a subby. Who supplied all his own WFP gear, water and van,  maybe £120 per day + completion bonus (£30) or 35 to 40% or the days work

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

PoleKing

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2014, 04:03:20 pm »
I think it might be hard to get realistic/sensible/accurate figures here, just because most of us ( so I'm lead to believe ) run our own biz, so our day rates would be on par with your day rate with little room for your override

Not to willy wave but 8w is well below what I'd be asking for.

You have to weigh it up does the expensive guy do more work, is it good quality work ie no snags, does he shift out a good amount a day ?  If so pay him, if not get shot.

Not sure what or how to pay a subby. Who supplied all his own WFP gear, water and van,  maybe £120 per day + completion bonus (£30) or 35 to 40% or the days work

Darran


The most expensive guy is kind of the leader inside.
I pole, they do inside on a number of jobs.
I pay him more cause I trust him the most to point the other guys in the right direction and pick up any windows missed or anything like that.

I thought I paid well. Really well compared to some. It's just the extra 12% he's put his price up. Just gauging opinion.
Keep 'em coming.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Smudger

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 04:33:07 pm »
It's a tricky one, sometimes it's not all about money....

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

windymiller

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2014, 04:49:17 pm »
I'm trad but I work to a day rate of £180 to £200 and happy at that  ;D

Tony dunmall

Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2014, 04:49:46 pm »
I suppose question is what would we pay?

£100 per day up to £120 depends if they want the work or no, if they have enough of there own and there busy enough then they will do there own work first

A Sub  is generally someone who's doing what we haven't got time to do but have  there own work but not quite enough


If it's what would I charge for myself  I wouldn't

geoffreyspecht

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2014, 05:39:34 pm »
I think it might be hard to get realistic/sensible/accurate figures here, just because most of us ( so I'm lead to believe ) run our own biz, so our day rates would be on par with your day rate with little room for your override

Not to willy wave but 8w is well below what I'd be asking for.

You have to weigh it up does the expensive guy do more work, is it good quality work ie no snags, does he shift out a good amount a day ?  If so pay him, if not get shot.

Not sure what or how to pay a subby. Who supplied all his own WFP gear, water and van,  maybe £120 per day + completion bonus (£30) or 35 to 40% or the days work

Darran

i would want at least 70% of the days work

Jonny 87

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2014, 06:00:11 pm »
If you were paying a subby £150 a day I think that is very reasonable.
Vision Technician / Visual Engineer /  Vision Enhancement Operative /...........................................................OnlyUseMeWFP AkA Jonny the Windy Wesher

kempy

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2014, 06:35:25 pm »
Outstanding £150

PoleKing

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2014, 06:41:35 pm »
Outstanding £150

What do you mean 'outstanding'?
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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Smudger

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2014, 07:46:22 pm »
I think it might be hard to get realistic/sensible/accurate figures here, just because most of us ( so I'm lead to believe ) run our own biz, so our day rates would be on par with your day rate with little room for your override

Not to willy wave but 8w is well below what I'd be asking for.

You have to weigh it up does the expensive guy do more work, is it good quality work ie no snags, does he shift out a good amount a day ?  If so pay him, if not get shot.

Not sure what or how to pay a subby. Who supplied all his own WFP gear, water and van,  maybe £120 per day + completion bonus (£30) or 35 to 40% or the days work

Darran

i would want at least 70% of the days work

That's the trade off from what we earn from our own work to what we would want from subbing ( why subby for less than I can generate from my own work ) but is it business sense to pay some one 70% for work I have sourced, organised, quoted and have to collect from etc..

People who "just" subby get given the work hassle free get paid regardless of weather the customer pays or not etc...  So it's a fine line on what's right for both parties

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2014, 07:55:48 pm »
Outstanding £150

What do you mean 'outstanding'?

Outstanding. I guess.   ;D

PoleKing

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2014, 07:57:41 pm »
I think it might be hard to get realistic/sensible/accurate figures here, just because most of us ( so I'm lead to believe ) run our own biz, so our day rates would be on par with your day rate with little room for your override

Not to willy wave but 8w is well below what I'd be asking for.

You have to weigh it up does the expensive guy do more work, is it good quality work ie no snags, does he shift out a good amount a day ?  If so pay him, if not get shot.

Not sure what or how to pay a subby. Who supplied all his own WFP gear, water and van,  maybe £120 per day + completion bonus (£30) or 35 to 40% or the days work

Darran

i would want at least 70% of the days work

That's the trade off from what we earn from our own work to what we would want from subbing ( why subby for less than I can generate from my own work ) but is it business sense to pay some one 70% for work I have sourced, organised, quoted and have to collect from etc..

People who "just" subby get given the work hassle free get paid regardless of weather the customer pays or not etc...  So it's a fine line on what's right for both parties

Darran

I don't think he was serious bud.
Unless splitting 70/30-30 going to subby.
I don't work like that. I only pay day rate.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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bobplum

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Re: What would you charge...?
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2014, 08:05:58 pm »
as a self employed W/C averaging a £220 a day i would want the same as i can earn from my work
if i did not have a round but was given say 3 days a week i would probably subby for £150.- £180.00 depending on travelling etc

I think, in my opinion, the whole point of subbying etc is to make a profit from the subby, so if his pricing high and getting close to the point were there is very little profit then look for a cheaper subby, the profit margin determines his value to you