[JSMC]

Can anyone tell me what needs to be done if you go down this route. I know in scotland our licence has to change. Also your PLI etc must change but i am more concerned with   how you pay etc n rules / regs....

[Smudger]

Same as if you were a limited company

You pay their wages, take off tax and NI, pay tax man plus your contributions
Sort out holiday entitlement, sick pay, employment contract, plus anything else I have forgotten...

Darran

[JSMC]

can you give a payment if just sub contracting ?

[Smudger]

You will need to read the HMRC guidelines on that, but if it's part time and ad hoc ie no set hours or days then yes pay as a subby get a receipt - if they fail to declare that's their problem not yours

Darran

[Ian Lancaster]

As Smudger says, but I'd insist on him giving me a proper invoice detailing work done, fees charged etc.  If he's sub-contracting from you he should be able to provide a bona fide invoice with his name, address etc.

[Clever Forum Name]

So what happens if you pay someone cash and they tell you are self employed and not?

What's the best way to avoid being stung?

Get an invoice from them to state they have been paid wages?

On bigger jobs in the past we have done that.

But was thinking of helping a mate who is desperate for work.

He is self employed. So should I still ask for an invoice per day?

[PoleKing]

So what happens if you pay someone cash and they tell you are self employed and not?

What's the best way to avoid being stung?

Get an invoice from them to state they have been paid wages?

On bigger jobs in the past we have done that.

But was thinking of helping a mate who is desperate for work.

He is self employed. So should I still ask for an invoice per day?

Yeah, an invoice from him will be good.
Tell him you need it so you don't pay tax on money you've paid out.
Mate did a but for me, not aggy but he looked a little like I didn't trust him. So I just said above.

[andyM]

I used to sub-contract for someone years ago in another trade.
I was told to invoice him after every week I worked for him detailing my hours as that was the instruction from his accountant.

[Clever Forum Name]

On jobs we get invoices. But one person could be there all day.

But this is more adhoc so do not want to get stung.

Thanks.

[andrew wakeman]

Bung him cash on the hip and lets face it no one will know.

[easy clean]

Anybody that gives you an invoice for work, make sure it has their UTR number on it. No problems that way 

[trevor povey]

 you can set on a part time worker can and they can earn upto 140.00 per week without you having to pay tax/ ni on  as long as theyve got no other form of income...

[p1w1]

Anybody that gives you an invoice for work, make sure it has their UTR number on it. No problems that way 

What's a utr number ? Is it a tax reference number or something

[easy clean]

Unique tax reference number

[robertphil]

do it right, employ him on the books .