[Fin Clearview]

nowt you can do mate.you didnt lose the customer so whats your problem?

the other company can do what the hell they want.

i personally would never undercut another window cleaner but some do.


dont worry about it.domestic customers are usually loyal if they like you and you do a good job.


regards


dazmond

The only prob I have is that in my area, I know we are all generally a decent bunch but in recent times we have seen 2 local firms steep to new lows to gain work, IMO morals apart they are taking the money out of the game. They employ blokes on £10 an hour, do a great job but force prices down and can easily undercut a one man band.

i feel the problem you have fin is that your comparing your ethics to others, you have had a good period of stability in terms of prices and competition and now , as you say, the two company's aren't playing ball, but thats business, they may feel your prices are extortion, they may be able to operate at lower levels of profitability and at the end of the day thats there right to operate the business as they see fit, assuming its legal.

I have said this before, dont worry about the lower priced competition.look at the higher priced guys above you and learn from them.

Why not sell the work to them and invest in say......... gutter vac or power wash system and start to divers

sit down and analyse

Cheers Bob, I agree I am comparing my ethics. I suppose I'm a little stuck in my ways and it gets to me when so many of us here are 'sticking to the window cleaners hymn sheet' in regard to pricing, not pinching work, slagging off others etc and then you get 2 firms going against all that and being totally ruthless. It won't affect my business anywhere near enough to justify diversifying (already have the vac) but thanks for the idea anyway.
Ps I forgot to send a pic of our Xmas drink, I'll do it tomorrow. Have to try and meet up this Xmas.

@Darren, who do you support utd? Liv? Or spurs?!

I'm a Chelsea boy.
Top of the table! (For at least 12 hours )

We'll enjoy that then! I'll allow a extension on your enjoyment until we play on mon night! Get over there much?

[PoleKing]

nowt you can do mate.you didnt lose the customer so whats your problem?

the other company can do what the hell they want.

i personally would never undercut another window cleaner but some do.


dont worry about it.domestic customers are usually loyal if they like you and you do a good job.


regards


dazmond

The only prob I have is that in my area, I know we are all generally a decent bunch but in recent times we have seen 2 local firms steep to new lows to gain work, IMO morals apart they are taking the money out of the game. They employ blokes on £10 an hour, do a great job but force prices down and can easily undercut a one man band.

i feel the problem you have fin is that your comparing your ethics to others, you have had a good period of stability in terms of prices and competition and now , as you say, the two company's aren't playing ball, but thats business, they may feel your prices are extortion, they may be able to operate at lower levels of profitability and at the end of the day thats there right to operate the business as they see fit, assuming its legal.

I have said this before, dont worry about the lower priced competition.look at the higher priced guys above you and learn from them.

Why not sell the work to them and invest in say......... gutter vac or power wash system and start to divers

sit down and analyse

Cheers Bob, I agree I am comparing my ethics. I suppose I'm a little stuck in my ways and it gets to me when so many of us here are 'sticking to the window cleaners hymn sheet' in regard to pricing, not pinching work, slagging off others etc and then you get 2 firms going against all that and being totally ruthless. It won't affect my business anywhere near enough to justify diversifying (already have the vac) but thanks for the idea anyway.
Ps I forgot to send a pic of our Xmas drink, I'll do it tomorrow. Have to try and meet up this Xmas.

@Darren, who do you support utd? Liv? Or spurs?!

I'm a Chelsea boy.
Top of the table! (For at least 12 hours )

We'll enjoy that then! I'll allow a extension on your enjoyment until we play on mon night! Get over there much?

No, unfortunately not.
Hardly get to see the games on telly ATM!
I have to take all the abuse from my mates about being an armchair fan.
Ho hum.
Really am enjoying this season though! Can't remember the last time so many were actually in contention.
And Utd are struggling a bit. Always nice.

[Johnny B]

Last year a customer told me about a guy going round offering cleans at half the price I am charging. I told the customer that anyone charging half as much as I am won't be able to make a living out of it.

I've not seen anyone new in the area, so I reckon he didn't make it.

I've no problem with anyone new starting up. I will even give them tips on how they can get started up. As has been said, if customers like you, you are reliable, honest and do a good job for a reasonable price, you have nothing to worry about.

John

[AuRavelling79]

so when you go shopping you always buy the dearest food ??


its life deal with it

Alright who the f*** do you think you're talking to

Nice. 

[dave f]

return the same, ive stoped worrying undercut them. get on with it .i charge what i want if that means undercutting so be it.its up to me to put a crust on the table and no ahole will prevent it.

[PoleKing]

return the same, ive stoped worrying undercut them. get on with it .i charge what i want if that means undercutting so be it.its up to me to put a crust on the table and no ahole will prevent it.

IMO that's not undercutting bud. That's business.
Undercutting is asking how much someone already pays then going in lower.
Only a small difference really but a big moral difference IMO.

[Tom White]

Swearing, even with asterixes, will not be tolerated.