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Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« on: December 25, 2013, 12:23:56 pm »

bobplum

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2013, 12:59:38 pm »
as far has i am concerned there's no panels left to clean some f****r in Telford cleans them all  ;D

I think what you have done is great and cornered a market were the customer is really focused on the monetary value and return, ie large commercial work, the website is dedicated to solar cleaning etc

I still personally think for the domestic market the mind set is different and due to the large amount of cleaners available to clean the panels the price is low and static and for some of the prices i have heard paid and qouted its not an avenue i will go down

I have today just taken solar panelling of my website and jigged it about a bit, so even if i did get a massive array today with all my domestics i wouldn't have the time

so for me its a no, but good luck steve

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2013, 01:44:39 pm »
Steve why have you included the point about ice-dams? Surely that phenomenon occurs with or without solar panels? Its not something that is unique to a property that has had solar panels installed is it.

PoleKing

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2013, 02:37:05 pm »
The honesty if #5 is refreshing Steve.
Well played.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2013, 02:50:03 pm »
Steve why have you included the point about ice-dams? Surely that phenomenon occurs with or without solar panels? Its not something that is unique to a property that has had solar panels installed is it.
You are right Matt, it can occur anywhere.  However, the risk of it happening is greatly increased with a property with panels.  If you look around next time we have snow of any worth, the massive weight that the melting snow from panels puts on guttering is huge.  I have not been called in for clearing an ice dam at all during nearly 18 years of cleaning, but I had 3 calls last year locally and many others elsewhere, ALL of them had panels on the roof.  That seemed to be the common denominator.

Like I say, look about next time it snows and you'll see what I mean.  The panels definitely make a difference.  :)

Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2013, 02:52:05 pm »
as far has i am concerned there's no panels left to clean some f****r in Telford cleans them all  ;D

I think what you have done is great and cornered a market were the customer is really focused on the monetary value and return, ie large commercial work, the website is dedicated to solar cleaning etc

I still personally think for the domestic market the mind set is different and due to the large amount of cleaners available to clean the panels the price is low and static and for some of the prices i have heard paid and qouted its not an avenue i will go down

I have today just taken solar panelling of my website and jigged it about a bit, so even if i did get a massive array today with all my domestics i wouldn't have the time

so for me its a no, but good luck steve
Cheers for the positive comments Bob.  The residential market is indeed different as you say, but it can still pay. 

If you get that big array come in........... ;) ;)

Spruce

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2013, 05:43:53 pm »
Steve,
How do you remove these ice dams? Is see a couple of youtube videos where the guys use preheated steam and cut through the ice by standing on the roof.

Not sure how H & S would fit in with this.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Frankybadboy

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2013, 07:11:31 pm »
Steve,
How do you remove these ice dams? Is see a couple of youtube videos where the guys use preheated steam and cut through the ice by standing on the roof.

Not sure how H & S would fit in with this.
you don't need a risk assessment or method statement for that,steve not that fussy  ;D

Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2013, 09:34:38 pm »
Steve,
How do you remove these ice dams? Is see a couple of youtube videos where the guys use preheated steam and cut through the ice by standing on the roof.

Not sure how H & S would fit in with this.
I don't know how those guys justify their work in a RAMS. I assume they do though. It is risky, no doubt. We remove the snow from the panels and from the bit of roof in front of the panels. We then defrost the ice dam.

Spruce

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2013, 08:03:24 am »
Steve,
How do you remove these ice dams? Is see a couple of youtube videos where the guys use preheated steam and cut through the ice by standing on the roof.

Not sure how H & S would fit in with this.
I don't know how those guys justify their work in a RAMS. I assume they do though. It is risky, no doubt. We remove the snow from the panels and from the bit of roof in front of the panels. We then defrost the ice dam.

So do you use steam or just hot water through your wfp system?
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Ian101

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2013, 09:21:08 am »
as far has i am concerned there's no panels left to clean some f****r in Telford cleans them all  ;D

I think what you have done is great and cornered a market were the customer is really focused on the monetary value and return, ie large commercial work, the website is dedicated to solar cleaning etc

I still personally think for the domestic market the mind set is different and due to the large amount of cleaners available to clean the panels the price is low and static and for some of the prices i have heard paid and qouted its not an avenue i will go down

I have today just taken solar panelling of my website and jigged it about a bit, so even if i did get a massive array today with all my domestics i wouldn't have the time

so for me its a no, but good luck steve



yup solar panels are a dead duck for me .......... start of this year had van bonnett wrapped with solar panel cleaning, big section on website and leaflets and got NOTHING from it. .......... bonnet getting rewrapped in conny roof cleaning and wont bother with it on leaflets when this batch runs out or on website.


bobplum

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2013, 10:45:10 am »
Steve , get to MASDAR CITY, Abu Dhabi..........300 football pitches of panels

Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2013, 12:16:12 pm »
Steve , get to MASDAR CITY, Abu Dhabi..........300 football pitches of panels

Ha!  Yeah, I'm always on the look out for the world's biggest arrays.  They are impressive beasts!

Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2013, 12:17:38 pm »
as far has i am concerned there's no panels left to clean some f****r in Telford cleans them all  ;D

I think what you have done is great and cornered a market were the customer is really focused on the monetary value and return, ie large commercial work, the website is dedicated to solar cleaning etc

I still personally think for the domestic market the mind set is different and due to the large amount of cleaners available to clean the panels the price is low and static and for some of the prices i have heard paid and qouted its not an avenue i will go down

I have today just taken solar panelling of my website and jigged it about a bit, so even if i did get a massive array today with all my domestics i wouldn't have the time

so for me its a no, but good luck steve



yup solar panels are a dead duck for me .......... start of this year had van bonnett wrapped with solar panel cleaning, big section on website and leaflets and got NOTHING from it. .......... bonnet getting rewrapped in conny roof cleaning and wont bother with it on leaflets when this batch runs out or on website.


It's a shame for you Ian, having put in all the effort.  :-\  I've said it before, its a difficult market to get into, it takes a long time, but is worthwhile when you get in.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2013, 08:29:23 am »
Nice post Steven,

Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2013, 02:00:19 pm »
Nice post Steven,
Thank you very much alecs.  (It's a PH!)  :P

PoleKing

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2013, 03:04:41 pm »
Nice post Steven,
Thank you very much alecs.  (It's a PH!)  :P

Solar Steph? That's a chick surely.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2013, 08:04:28 pm »
Arr man, Stephen,

Did you get my text? Im looking for some more peat and recommendations

Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2013, 10:53:37 pm »
Arr man, Stephen,

Did you get my text? Im looking for some more peat and recommendations
I just got a text saying thank you. The next one said you had finished the whisky, so I assumed you were aled. I will text you tomorrow with recommendations.  :)

Glad you liked the solar post. I think it could be manic again this year! :)

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Top 8 Solar Panel Cleaning Facts
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2013, 02:40:41 am »
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