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Poll

What do you class yourself as?

Self employed
53.7%
36 (53.7%)
Business Owner
46.3%
31 (46.3%)

Total Members Voted: 61

C o z y

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2013, 07:59:06 pm »
Well, it's a window cleaner's section of a forum. What do you suggest, an Amway "become rich in a week" seminar? Get a grip. The developed world went through all this crap two decades ago  ;D
You're just a bit late, that's all.
No still don't understand, I must be thick

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2013, 07:59:55 pm »
You are correct Matt.
Can I ask though, and by all means dont answer it. But, If you stopped window cleaning tomorrow would your income FROM window cleaning stop or carry on?

That would depend.

It could. But that doesn't mean it would. You see, it's just semantics. Theorizing on web-sites does jack-$hite for a business. This thread reminds me of Ewan who used to come on here. He could talk a good wheelbarrow load of bollox about how to do something, most of which was also bollox, but it's the getting out there and doing that is the important bit. Thinking about being big won't make me big.

However, ironically, THINKING too much about being a small business is likely to ensure I remain a small business.

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2013, 08:06:23 pm »
I do not expect to become rich in a week, and, in 2016 I will be far from 'rich' but will be off the tools and have a nice healthy income.
I am not 'preaching' here. I simply wanted to highlight some sound advice I enjoyed watching last night.
Cozy stop reading this post get back to your cats and dogs post.  ;D

C o z y

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2013, 08:09:01 pm »
No idea why I should not post on this thread mate. I love watching Amway bods get upset when people don't bite the bait. It's a window cleaning section here, not get rich quick section. Stop telling everyone what you're going to do and show us instead. Come back in 2016 and show us the way.

"I'm gonna this, I'm gonna that"  ::)roll
No still don't understand, I must be thick

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2013, 08:13:30 pm »
Matt, I have actually put in to practice this 'bo*****s'
It is going very well.
I am not re-inventing the wheel.
There is a well respected 'Window Cleaning Business Owner' (posts on here) whose business model I am following.
He seems to be enjoying the fruits of his labour without so much as an slx or ladder in sight.
I am just a few years behind him.


MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

  • Posts: 1821
Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2013, 08:14:51 pm »
But he didn't get where he is by talking about it is what I'm saying.

Dave Willis

Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2013, 08:15:38 pm »
We've had quite a few on here who have been sucked in by motivational speeches usually made by Americans. strangely I don't think many really took off.

One or two have had success with the franchising route but an awful lot are still working. Getting rich by networking was the most recent craze accompanied by automated sales funneling.

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2013, 08:37:59 pm »
I think some of you may have the wrong end of the stick.

ITS MY WINDOW CLEANING BUSINESS THAT PRODUCES INCOME EVEN IF I DONT WORK.

I am not selling a get rich quick scheme, mlm or anything like.

In the last 8 months I have set up 2 franchisees, First has been up and running for those 8 months the second has been running for 3 months.
Both are happy, both do a great job for the customers and both pay ME a commission.

Another 2 Franchisees WILL be added next year.(already in talks with the next)

All in all a good 2013.
Not just talking the talk but walking the walk.  ;D
 
 

Dave Willis

Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2013, 08:46:02 pm »
So why didn't you say that in the first place? You bought Ian Lancasters package.

C o z y

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2013, 08:47:12 pm »
No still don't understand, I must be thick

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2013, 08:56:46 pm »
The original post was highlighting a video on you tube. After 17 seconds of watching it people thought I was mlm/kleeneze/amway/herbalife/telecomplus.
I am a self employed window cleaner building my business toward time freedom. Who wants to be cleaning till they retire? How can you retire if your income stops when you stop working?

I shared the video in a hope someone else could benefit from its advice.
   

C o z y

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2013, 09:00:51 pm »
Some people probably did. Stop hitting them over the head with it.
No still don't understand, I must be thick

roundbuilder

Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2013, 09:36:51 pm »
Kentclean, its all well and good that you have ambition as does everybody else on this forum, its easy to say that in 2016 you will be this and have that and be able to stay in bed if needbe etc however doing it is another story lol, you said in a post a few weeks ago that in 2014 you will have 2 more vans on the road which if you do then fair play but you are coming accross as a dreamer if im honest.
What seperates the men from the boys is actualy doing it instead of dreaming and thinking about it.
It is perfectly normal for a window cleaner to clean windows untill he retires!
Where is the problem with that?
Untill you have 1500/2000 decent customers and a rock solid bunch of reliable lads where everything simply runs like clockwork you too will be cleaning windows untill you retire just like the rest of us.



David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2013, 09:55:30 pm »
Mick, they will not be my lads, they will be there own boss, solid, reliable and doing a good job for the customer because they have invested and its there own business.

I plan to obtain 600 new customers in 2014. Our 'drop out rate' after the first clean is next to nothing so these will supply the next 2 vans.

I find with the right leafleting technique customers are easy to gain and keep.
I dropped 400 leaflets over a 2 week period (4x1 hour drops) at the end of november on 2 estates that we already work on. So far to date we have cleaned 25 with another 1 confirmed that they want us in 2014 via email tonight.

Will keep you up to date in 2014.

Dreaming?

My goal for 2013 was 2 vans.   
Goal achieved
!
2014 another 2, IT WILL happen.



 

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2013, 09:59:06 pm »
I think some of you may have the wrong end of the stick.

ITS MY WINDOW CLEANING BUSINESS THAT PRODUCES INCOME EVEN IF I DONT WORK.

I am not selling a get rich quick scheme, mlm or anything like.

In the last 8 months I have set up 2 franchisees, First has been up and running for those 8 months the second has been running for 3 months.
Both are happy, both do a great job for the customers and both pay ME a commission.

Another 2 Franchisees WILL be added next year.(already in talks with the next)

All in all a good 2013.
Not just talking the talk but walking the walk.  ;D
 
 

'Have' not 'going to.' The going to is another 2 in 2014

PoleKing

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2013, 09:59:47 pm »
Mick, they will not be my lads, they will be there own boss, solid, reliable and doing a good job for the customer because they have invested and its there own business.

I plan to obtain 600 new customers in 2014. Our 'drop out rate' after the first clean is next to nothing so these will supply the next 2 vans.

I find with the right leafleting technique customers are easy to gain and keep.
I dropped 400 leaflets over a 2 week period (4x1 hour drops) at the end of november on 2 estates that we already work on. So far to date we have cleaned 25 with another 1 confirmed that they want us in 2014 via email tonight.

Will keep you up to date in 2014.

Dreaming?

My goal for 2013 was 2 vans.   
Goal achieved
!
2014 another 2, IT WILL happen.



 

Genuinely.
In as few words as possible.
Why would someone buy your kit rather than set up on their own?
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2013, 10:01:07 pm »
They are frightened to go it alone.
They like security!

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2013, 10:02:52 pm »
By the way, they buy there own kit  ;D

PoleKing

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Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2013, 10:09:21 pm »
Fair enough.
So you supply (how many) customers?
And take what %?
How do you provide 'security'?
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: Self employed or Business Owner?
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2013, 10:18:15 pm »
Customers= However many they want, AS LONG as they keep the quality and frequency of cleaning up.

Percentage= 20% of all work completed. Paid weekly.

Security= They never have to find there own customers. You supply the customers. If they had to find there own they would never start!