[ben M]

Gary,where do you live?

[gary999]

south birmingham...nosey aint we

[G Griffin]

south birmingham...nosey aint we

Please don't say South Birmingham. To you it's South Birmingham.
Just because you say it's South Birmingham doesn't mean it's South Birmingham. 

[gary999]

south birmingham...nosey aint we

Please don't say South Birmingham. To you it's South Birmingham.
Just because you say it's South Birmingham doesn't mean it's South Birmingham. 

[ben M]

south birmingham...nosey aint we

Please don't say South Birmingham. To you it's South Birmingham.
Just because you say it's South Birmingham doesn't mean it's South Birmingham. 

rubbish and don't like it is not the same, are you friend with Gary? 

[gary999]

Birmingham is rubbish..because its rubbish i dont like it

or I dont like Birmingham because its rubbish

either works for me

Stick to talking about China or better still bugger off there

[ben M]

Birmingham is rubbish..because its rubbish i dont like it

or I dont like Birmingham because its rubbish

either works for me

Stick to talking about China or better still bugger off there

maybe you don't like Birmingham but it is not rubbish 
do you want another lesson of English? 

[gary999]

Birmingham is rubbish..because its rubbish i dont like it

or I dont like Birmingham because its rubbish

either works for me

Stick to talking about China or better still bugger off there

maybe you don't like Birmingham but it is not rubbish 
do you want another lesson of English? 

Thats your opinion about birmingham and not mine

lets stop doing this silly dance..its pointless when the
opposite number has two left feet.

i must admit you have bored me into submission

feck me they will have to block up the channel tunnel if they
intend to send over any more challenged like yourself

[G Griffin]

south birmingham...nosey aint we

Please don't say South Birmingham. To you it's South Birmingham.
Just because you say it's South Birmingham doesn't mean it's South Birmingham. 

rubbish and don't like it is not the same, are you friend with Gary? 

Yes, I've bummed him loads of times in the Bullring. That is a place and a euphemism.

[gary999]

south birmingham...nosey aint we

Please don't say South Birmingham. To you it's South Birmingham.
Just because you say it's South Birmingham doesn't mean it's South Birmingham. 

rubbish and don't like it is not the same, are you friend with Gary? 

Yes, I've bummed him loads of times in the Bullring. That is a place and a euphemism.

you flatter me...mr griffin

[gary999]

Cheers Gary999 , I'm not sure if I've said the gardiners upgrade is Rubbish , there certainly not the best in operation and are very awkward .
I've been positive that they are good at securing the sections from spinning , but the ability of a clamp to revert the other way round isn't good .
Yes I have tightened them up a lot and then 1/2turn back and tried to get the equilibrium , the right balance or tolerance in the adjustment .
But it regularly needs adjusting .
Had some new bolts sent out to me free of charge and that's great customer support-grateful - but still not happening for me . The new bolts sent with the loctite still make the clamp lose its position .
To me there's too much engineering now on what should be a simple -clamp , the shim seems too thin and the bolt too long . Therefore a gap for the adjustment to always take place . Maybe a shorter threaded bolt that is built to the exact length with a stop at the end -but then the shim may wear more .

Not easy -hence the problems encountered . I could be totally wrong and silly in my thoughts .
But still a good pole to use everyday .

no need to thank me matey..cant see that you had done anything wrong
you gave info requested and gave an honest opinion.Always good to
know new info,i might be in the market for a 40ft plus in the future and
as closed lengths are not major on my agenda..its defo a route to consider

[tench0771]

girls,girls,you are getting upset aren't you? the op just wanted to know a different option and maybe opinion-this can was only half opened of worms.99% of the poles you will buy here come from china THAT is a fact,but it is wrong to compare like for like as alex and facelift for example will have different specs for their poles-they are made in large volumes to order,note,just buying a cheap pole from china whilst worthwhile you should do the research in the type of carbon weaves to construct the pole and how many weaves and the combination of them all will make a good or bad pole-banging a 3kg weight on the end of the pole proves what?its more flexy than other poles-but maybe slightly more,you guys are only at most going to put a 250 gram brush on the end of the pole so you wouldn't see/feel the difference at 30' and below,i know for a fact kempy is at a "higher level"in w/c in the products and additives he uses
(some thing you guys can only dream of)so please don't slag him off because of his choice of poles just because it doesn't agree with yours.
something a customer said to me the other week "if the product is good and lasts a long while why do i need good customer service?-made me think-anyhow big brother is watching so i'll sign off now

well said m8 coming frm aka (tench0771)

[Jonny 87]

girls,girls,you are getting upset aren't you? the op just wanted to know a different option and maybe opinion-this can was only half opened of worms.99% of the poles you will buy here come from china THAT is a fact,but it is wrong to compare like for like as alex and facelift for example will have different specs for their poles-they are made in large volumes to order,note,just buying a cheap pole from china whilst worthwhile you should do the research in the type of carbon weaves to construct the pole and how many weaves and the combination of them all will make a good or bad pole-banging a 3kg weight on the end of the pole proves what?its more flexy than other poles-but maybe slightly more,you guys are only at most going to put a 250 gram brush on the end of the pole so you wouldn't see/feel the difference at 30' and below,i know for a fact kempy is at a "higher level"in w/c in the products and additives he uses
(some thing you guys can only dream of)so please don't slag him off because of his choice of poles just because it doesn't agree with yours.
something a customer said to me the other week "if the product is good and lasts a long while why do i need good customer service?-made me think-anyhow big brother is watching so i'll sign off now

well said m8 coming frm aka (tench0771)

+1

 

[kempy]

Yes , the above a good post from KevinC .

Was going to quote it , but last time I did that it went wrong .

[Jonny 87]

£312 including tax and delivery!

For a 45 foot full carbon fibre pole.

Wow. It is £400 more to get a 45 foot pole anywhere else that's fully carbon fibre.

It's going to be an occasional pole for me and hardly get used, so should last me a long time. Great stuff.

[kempy]

That's why I did it .
At £312 I thought if it's rubbish then I only use it 4 or 5 times a month .
With it being full carbon fibre I thought it can't be that bad .

So I ordered it . And thought with postage etc why not add a 18ft pole .

The China pole is great at 45 ft

Great buy

[oldman]

Yes , the above a good post from KevinC .

Was going to quote it , but last time I did that it went wrong .

Shhhh......you'll wake 'them' up again Kempy  .

[tench0771]

Yes , the above a good post from KevinC .

Was going to quote it , but last time I did that it went wrong .

Shhhh......you'll wake 'them' up again Kempy  .

[Stephen Fox]

For the record these aren't the older style Facelift clamps but inferior copies - made a few years ago. We've already closed down a number of sellers importing them into the UK, but the Chinese will do what ever they want!  

[windiewasher]

For the record these aren't the older style Facelift clamps but inferior copies - made a few years ago. We've already closed down a number of sellers importing them into the UK, but the Chinese will do what ever they want!  

how did you shut other seller's down?