[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Kempy, can i buy your slx25 please?

[kempy]

Yep , the negatives of my above poles that Jonny posted up for me are the collapsed length isn't as good as a gardiners . But manageable and fits in my transit van easily .

The vertical clamps are so so easy to use , flip it fully and it opens up , close it just say 10/20 degrees and it acts as a brake , therefore to extend /descend and keep a section in place you don't have to fully close it - quicker than a gardiners
Over gutters -superb .
The carbon sections feel very very strong .
A carbon fibre pole is pretty much similar to the mkt leader ones - or should. I say the big 4 China manufacturers .

The neck , brush , pole hose us what ever you want
3 month in , not even had to fine tube them yet with the odd bolt tighten , nothing done to it yet .
Whereas with my gardiner we clamps I'm always adjusting and getting them to face the right way.

The slx's are better closed in length , but sections are similar in strength and weight . Just these clamps are better for me

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Here's a pic of them.

They look VERY much like the old Facelift clamps!!

[kempy]

It's 2012 with the older original clamps , work better these but you need to lacquer the sections up
Red AD hose
Aqua adaptor on it
10"  carbon neck and white gardiner CILL brush .

Had a offer off £170 from mike

Could sell without bits or aqua adaptor on it .

[kempy]

Probably are .
I don't know facelift never had one .

The China supplier , Richard says he'll send me the new updated clamps once his manufactured them . Hope they stay vertical , but this 18ft sjouke last me 12 -18 month

[steven 1]

Here's a pic of them.

They look VERY much like the old Facelift clamps!!

they are facelift clamps!

[Jonny 87]

I have a feeling once people see the pictures they will be less inclined to dismiss these poles. They seem to think the poles are bamboo, and clamped together with string. Lol 

They look very good quality.

[kempy]

The sections to me feel stronger than my slx . But they may not be .
How strong do they need to be on the 18ft pole , or even the 45ft pole .
I extend it the way it should be , I don't want to run over it etc .

I think their good , 3 month I know is a short time , but the clamps are what it's all about .


Franky will I hope post several photos of them tomorrow .

[Lee GLS]

kempy, it would be interesting to see the difference in the weight and flex of your china pole against a gariner pole, do you have 2 the same lenght, if not could you take a few sections off your 45ft to make it a 25ft, then do the old flex test with a bottle hanging off the end?

[kempy]

I'll try and do something , I have two kids mate a 8 & 3 year old , don't have the time to be a pole GEEK .
I'll try mate , take a photo maybe , I have a CHINA 18ft and slx 25ft .

In my honesty , if you need a 45ft pole , these are a great buy .
If your buying just a 18ft pole then the aqua adaptor VLITE and gardiners that come fully complete are maybe a better buy if your just buying one 18ft pole .

But if you want 2 or 3 poles I feel this has been a good good decision .
I think 45ft and 18ft cost me £440  all in .
Then bought the necks,hose,brush .
But they can be supplied with a alloy neck for a extra 4 quid

Anyway there you go

[dazmond]

they look good solid poles kempy.if they work for you then fair play.

i wont buy direct from china simply because the poles will be heavier than the extremes.the difference for example between the SLX and extreme poles is immense.

it makes one hell of a difference how you feel at the end of the day poling.which is what i do 95% of my working day.

even more so at 40-50 ft.the higher you go the more strain.even if you dont do too much higher work. if your swapping to a heavier pole(than it needs to be) for higher work your leaving yourself open to shoulder problems,strains and RSI.

EXTREME 25 gets used for most work

EXTREME 47 as and when its needed(about 10 times a month)

2 poles thats it.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Here's a pic of them.

They look VERY much like the old Facelift clamps!!

they are facelift clamps!

I suspect they are the "old school" Facelift poles. I used to have one. Solid poles but way too heavy & the clamps make for a long closed length.

[Clever Forum Name]

I found some carbon poles couldn't even clean solar panels without bending and touching panels.

We only use extremes now.

Just bought the extensions for the extreme 47 and they are a work of art. Lovely and light and strong.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I found some carbon poles couldn't even clean solar panels without bending and touching panels.

We only use extremes now.

Just bought the extensions for the extreme 47 and they are a work of art. Lovely and light and strong.

Same here, the old facelift had to be "walked up the wall" at 40ft!!!

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

I would rather work with a heavier pole that has a shorter closed length!
WHAT AM I SAYING! 
Forgot I have a SLX 

[Frankybadboy]

pictures posted on behalf of kempy.

[tench0771]

the poles look very good ill b geting to  23ft poles  and one  45ft kev sent me some pix with his at full strech an there very stiff  ide say there as stiff as my facelift phoenix wich is what i have at the mo

[kempy]

Cheers for putting the pictures up franky .
There good for the money .

Comparing them to extreame then obviously they are no where near as good , well in my view the clamps are .

Compare them to a slx , and to me in terms of money , they are a good alternative .

[kempy]

Yes you can fully extend the 18ft and hold it horizontally out at knee height and it's doesn't flex .

Not that this is a normal pitch

[PoleKing]

Kempy, have you got an extreme too?
As a test you could extend you c****y pole to the same as an SLXII and extreme, at (say) a 45 degree angle and tie (say) a 3kg weight to the brush.
You could then tell exactly how much flex there is in direct comparison.
(Not that you're bothered, just thought it'd make a good comparison.)