[♠Winp®oClean♠]

dont rise to the bait jonny.winpros just winding you up mate!he likes to do that to other windys from time to time!!

most of us can get out and work in minus conditions.its a challenge!none of us wants to take weeks off at a time not earning even if we have a couple of grand emergency fund built up(which i have by the way).

id rather be out doing short days and ticking over.its better than sitting in getting cabin fever!

window cleaning and money is like a drug to me!i need my fix of both!!whether its -5 or 40 degrees!!

i also grit where needed with de icing salt and sweep any standing water away with a broom in minus conditions.


regards


dazmond

Daz mi old mucker, I certainly am not winding anyone up. We are talking about people coming on here boasting about working in dangerous conditions, not just -4/-5 & causing serious public hazards doing so- do you think that's a joke Daz?

[dazmond]

fair play winpro.-15 seems to be pushing it a bit!ive worked down to -2 or 3 with a cold system and had a few problems with windows freezing up on unheated porches and conservatories.

God knows how you can work in -15.i remember a few years ago when it went down to -15 overnight here and all my barrels in my van froze solid!!(all 10 of em!)

[PoleKing]

-5 or -50 ice is ice.

[Jonny 87]

Thanks daz.  

If mr winPOO read my posts properly he would see the coldest I've WFP in is -7. I wasn't talking about -15.lol

"Putting salt down is me admitting liability" ??

Ok winPOO. We will leave this one there. I guess the council gritting roads is them "admitting liability". It is a precautionary and wise manner.

Enjoy work tomorrow winPOO. Uses of course it's 2 degrees then you should stay in with Jeremy Kyle as potentially you could leave some ice on the ground.

 

Regards,

Jonny.

[keyser soze]

what a great topic 

[gary999]

-5 or -50 ice is ice.

incorrect

ice only starts to freeze at zero celsius and also starts to melt at
the same temp.

so a couple of degrees below freezing  the water would still
have some time to soakaway whilst cleaning before freezing

at -14 which you say you clean at there is a good chance
the water would freeze on contact with the ground and as ice
is not as dense as a liquid it floats so the spill zone would likely
double compared to a liquid puddle

At -50 the water would turn to ice as it left your brush

[gary999]

Thanks daz.  

If mr winPOO read my posts properly he would see the coldest I've WFP in is -7. I wasn't talking about -15.lol

"Putting salt down is me admitting liability" ??

Ok winPOO. We will leave this one there. I guess the council gritting roads is them "admitting liability". It is a precautionary and wise manner.

Enjoy work tomorrow winPOO. Uses of course it's 2 degrees then you should stay in with Jeremy Kyle as potentially you could leave some ice on the ground.

 

Regards,

Jonny.

very few of my customers are happy about me putting salt/grit
down a lot have fancy drives and are advised to avoid

[dazmond]

i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.

some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.

[PoleKing]

-5 or -50 ice is ice.

incorrect

ice only starts to freeze at zero celsius and also starts to melt at
the same temp.

so a couple of degrees below freezing  the water would still
have some time to soakaway whilst cleaning before freezing

at -14 which you say you clean at there is a good chance
the water would freeze on contact with the ground and as ice
is not as dense as a liquid it floats so the spill zone would likely
double compared to a liquid puddle

At -50 the water would turn to ice as it left your brush

I am correct but I get your point.


I was hoping someone would've cleaned at -20...

Also, my personal opinion is that winter will be less severe this year than last but I'm not holding my breath.
I work less now than ever before so still shouldn't really impact too much even if it is harsh.

[gary999]

i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.

some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.

you wouldnt be able to brush away at -15 though dazmond it would
already of frozen

[PoleKing]

i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.

some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.

you wouldnt be able to brush away at -15 though dazmond it would
already of frozen

Have you experienced this?
@-14 it's not the case.

[Dave Willis]

Is this a wind up? At -14 the water would turn to ice within seconds  - you'd never be able to brush it away 

[jarvy]

Was trying to trad shops in this last January, complete waste of time. Certainly would not of risked wfp at that temp. Just my opinion though.

[jarvy]

sorry,pic seems to have come out massive 

[windowswashed]

The worst time for working in minus temperatures is when the ground has been freezing for weeks on end instead of just a day or two as the ose lying on the ground freezes quickly if laid still for too long. Have to keep water flow continuously running as much as possible and drain pole hoses between cleans so nothing freezes up too quickly. Pays to have a few spare brush heads and good, leak free hose connections cause if they leak they will freeze much quicker. Pre preparation prevents poor performance as they say

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Is this a wind up? At -14 the water would turn to ice within seconds  - you'd never be able to brush it away 

It's muppets talking s**te!!

You are right, at -14 the water would be ice in seconds on the floor.

[gary999]

i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.

some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.

you wouldnt be able to brush away at -15 though dazmond it would
already of frozen

Have you experienced this?
@-14 it's not the case.

the coldest ive worked up to was -5c and the water was turning to ice in secs on the pavement
we had -12c one night and the brakes on passat froze on solid...so the chances of me working
in those temps even if i wanted to are non existent

[PoleKing]

i know what you mean gary!some customers dont like you to grit!i know which ones now so i just sweep any standing water away on these jobs.

some customers appreciate it though.i always ask them first now.

you wouldnt be able to brush away at -15 though dazmond it would
already of frozen

Have you experienced this?
@-14 it's not the case.

the coldest ive worked up to was -5c and the water was turning to ice in secs on the pavement
we had -12c one night and the brakes on passat froze on solid...so the chances of me working
in those temps even if i wanted to are non existent

So you haven't (even tried to) work at these temperatures.
I can't see how you can have an opinion on something you haven't tried...
I realise this logic isn't universal but in this case, is true.
I have cleaned at -14, no joke, no BS. Why would I lie?
Someone else in thread said they had cleaned at -19, why would they lie?
Yes the water does freeze on the glass but with the right rinsing the dirt has already travelled to the bottom of the frame and away.
The ice left on the glass is pure.
Same as you leave glass wet, when it dries, it dries clear.
When frozen, when it thaws it thaws clear.
I didn't start this thread to willy wave, it's a genuine thread asking how cold has people cleaned at.
-19 seems to be the 'record' as far as I am aware.
The lads that don't clean past 0, fair play to you. If you don't wanna do it, don't do it. No-one will think any better or worse if you either way.
In winter WFPers will leave ice in winter-fact.
It's up to each man, individually, (or the gaffer) to decide what is safe/not safe.
Water falls on the flowers? Probably little risk.
Falls on the path-high risk. Do you miss those windows out? Do you salt? Do you trad? It's an individual call.
Long & short-to those saying WFPing at sub double figures is not possible.
It is.

[Jonny 87]

+1

[gary999]

dirty...i havent been able to work beyond -5c. so how would i work at minus
double figures

im sure it was you that stated(cant be bothered to look back through post so correct
if im wrong) that at -14c one was cleaning and one was blading off straight away

now work buting on my own as i do,physically speaking nevermind practically it just
wouldnt be possible.

i would have iced windows and more importantly a death trap on the ground
and like i said before the majority of my customers have fancy drives and wouldnt
appreciate me throwing salt around.

i have worked up to -5c in the past and that has depended on various factors
weather for example,sunny day you might have a chance,cold misty day no chance
are the windows in the sunlight..yep no problem windows/house in the shade
forget it.

too much messing around to even bother getting out of bed for a chap working
on his own like me

i make enough money in lower temps to not even worry or contemplate it
thankyou very much

-14 you can keep it