[PoleKing]

How did you stop the tank of water from freezing and the hose going into pump ?

It didn't freeze.
I have a greenhouse heater in the van overnight so that must've kept enough residual heat to keep it from freezing.
I cleaned at -14, it must've been colder over night.

[keyser soze]

i've never had the chance  to work below -5 yet ..i'm sure it will happen.  biggest scare is the skating rink you leave behind...though i do salt and grit

[windowswashed]

Minus 5 in the day is the coldest I've worked when night time temp was minus 17. Just had to use thermobore hose, insulate tank, hoses, everything and keep water flow running. Lost one pole stuck on a bedroom window sill for 24 hours as it froze to the sill, collected it the next day after going up a ladder and pouring boiling water over it from a kettle to recover. Don't like working when it's below zero as everything freezes as soon as you work and have to put rock salt everywhere.

[Jonny 87]

-5 quite consistently every winter here in Scotland. -5.5 a few days ago.

-7 is the coldest I've had the chance to work in.

Hot water is a must for us in Scotland I think unless you want lots of time off.

[PoleKing]

Minus 5 in the day is the coldest I've worked when night time temp was minus 17. Just had to use thermobore hose, insulate tank, hoses, everything and keep water flow running. Lost one pole stuck on a bedroom window sill for 24 hours as it froze to the sill, collected it the next day after going up a ladder and pouring boiling water over it from a kettle to recover. Don't like working when it's below zero as everything freezes as soon as you work and have to put rock salt everywhere.

Lol. If it's there long enough to freeze you ain't moving quick enough fella!

[windowswashed]

  We're all getting older 

[KS Cleaning]

Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased

[Arnold Palmer]

Not exactly WFP then?

Was it a pole fed with water, you mean?

Errrr yes it was exactly that.

No, the fact that you have to immediately blade the pure off to prevent sheet ice!

What you thought you could leave water on glass at -15?

And you called me stupid?

[kempy]

Think Jonny is the cold king , well most of the Scottish lads .
In Wakefield ,yorkshire we don't have it too bad , well not as bad as Scotland .

The good old Pennines shield us from the WET weather   , and puts a obstacle between the pride of yorkshire and the Manx lot 

Will have to put the OIL FILLED RADIATOR into the wagon soon

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Not exactly WFP then?

Was it a pole fed with water, you mean?

Errrr yes it was exactly that.

No, the fact that you have to immediately blade the pure off to prevent sheet ice!

What you thought you could leave water on glass at -15?

And you called me stupid?

No, it was YOU who came on here stating that- "Trust me it IS possible - it is also utterly pointless - but so long as you have hot (well, warm) water it is do-able."

So, to sum up, as I correctly stated at the beginning, you can't wfp at -15.

[premier window cleaners]

-18 two years ago, still managed to keep going with thermo pure

[PoleKing]

-18 two years ago, still managed to keep going with thermo pure

Winner winner chicken dinner!!!
Where was that fella?

[Jonny 87]

Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased

Why would you get chased?

Customers don't come out from there warm houses to wave a thermometer about and say.....no no no this is far too cold for me to have clean windows. Stop making my windows clean......

If you can still do a good job then customers won't mind what so ever. WFP all the windows and quickly squeegee off water to stop it freezing on the glass. Then in use the expensive white de icing salt that doesn't stain or damage carpets etc.

Cold weather is an easy excuse for some to have a day off.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased

Why would you get chased?

Customers don't come out from there warm houses to wave a thermometer about and say.....no no no this is far too cold for me to have clean windows. Stop making my windows clean......

If you can still do a good job then customers won't mind what so ever. WFP all the windows and quickly squeegee off water to stop it freezing on the glass. Then in use the expensive white de icing salt that doesn't stain or damage carpets etc.

Cold weather is an easy excuse for some to have a day off.

I'll remind you of this when you cause a serious accident with the death trap paths you leave behind!!

If you took weather conditions into account with your pricing you wouldn't have to go out in -15 in the first place!

[Jonny 87]

Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased

Why would you get chased?

Customers don't come out from there warm houses to wave a thermometer about and say.....no no no this is far too cold for me to have clean windows. Stop making my windows clean......

If you can still do a good job then customers won't mind what so ever. WFP all the windows and quickly squeegee off water to stop it freezing on the glass. Then in use the expensive white de icing salt that doesn't stain or damage carpets etc.

Cold weather is an easy excuse for some to have a day off.

I'll remind you of this when you cause a serious accident with the death trap paths you leave behind!!

If you took weather conditions into account with your pricing you wouldn't have to go out in -15 in the first place!

Did you not hear that I put white deicing salt down?

What kind of sytem do you have? Does it leak water everywhere? My water only comes out the brush head and I have complete controll of where the water goes. I also use a low flow rate so water is not splashing everywhere.

In years of doing this I have had no issues! So I'm sharing my experiences on a public forum. Hope this is ok with you?

May I also add that wether your cleaning in 0 degrees or  -10 degrees water will freeze on the ground.

Can you afford to have months on end off work? In Scotland it goes weeks and weeks hovering around freezing, so using your "logic" I would have to have weeks mayb months off work.

You must charge a heck of a lot if you can afford to do that?

[SeanK]

Jonny, I charge normal prices and don't need to work in minus temperatures.
I work extra hours in the warmer months and wind down in winter.
Have never needed to pull back a month but could do it no problem.

[Jonny 87]

Where do you live?
Honestly not working in minus temperatures isn't an option for me.

2 years ago we had 8 weeks solid of no warmer than -3 during the day.

Can you have 8 weeks off?

The reason I still work in - temps is two fold;

1.  I like to still be earning, and not sitting at home watching Jeremy Kyle,

2. I like to keep my customers happy with a regular service.

I have lots of customers that appreciate that I come round rain hail or shine and don't sit at home for weeks on end in the winter, especially when people want their houses looking the best for big Christmas parties and family get togethers etc.

I've always ran my business this way and am extremely happy this way.



Jonny.

[SeanK]

Where do you live?
Honestly not working in minus temperatures isn't an option for me.

2 years ago we had 8 weeks solid of no warmer than -3 during the day.

Can you have 8 weeks off?

The reason I still work in - temps is two fold;

1.  I like to still be earning, and not sitting at home watching Jeremy Kyle,

2. I like to keep my customers happy with a regular service.

I have lots of customers that appreciate that I come round rain hail or shine and don't sit at home for weeks on end in the winter, especially when people want their houses looking the best for big Christmas parties and family get togethers etc.

I've always ran my business this way and am extremely happy this way.



Jonny.

My mistake I was referring to minus 10 and below would work in minus 3 myself to cover Christmas.
But at the end of the day if your happy and your customers are happy then that's all that matters.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Bottom line, -4/-5 maybe just, anything below that, forget it, for those that say -15/-16.... maybe one window at most, then you get chased

Why would you get chased?

Customers don't come out from there warm houses to wave a thermometer about and say.....no no no this is far too cold for me to have clean windows. Stop making my windows clean......

If you can still do a good job then customers won't mind what so ever. WFP all the windows and quickly squeegee off water to stop it freezing on the glass. Then in use the expensive white de icing salt that doesn't stain or damage carpets etc.

Cold weather is an easy excuse for some to have a day off.

I'll remind you of this when you cause a serious accident with the death trap paths you leave behind!!

If you took weather conditions into account with your pricing you wouldn't have to go out in -15 in the first place!

Did you not hear that I put white deicing salt down?

What kind of sytem do you have? Does it leak water everywhere? My water only comes out the brush head and I have complete controll of where the water goes. I also use a low flow rate so water is not splashing everywhere.

In years of doing this I have had no issues! So I'm sharing my experiences on a public forum. Hope this is ok with you?

May I also add that wether your cleaning in 0 degrees or  -10 degrees water will freeze on the ground.

Can you afford to have months on end off work? In Scotland it goes weeks and weeks hovering around freezing, so using your "logic" I would have to have weeks mayb months off work.

You must charge a heck of a lot if you can afford to do that?

Yes Jonny, I'm in Scotland too & yes, I do not have to work in minus temperatures as I earn more than enough when it's not minus. You putting salt down is you admitting liability to causing the problem in the first place- very dodgy ground my friend should anyone pursue you for damages!!

[dazmond]

dont rise to the bait jonny.winpros just winding you up mate!he likes to do that to other windys from time to time!!

most of us can get out and work in minus conditions.its a challenge!none of us wants to take weeks off at a time not earning even if we have a couple of grand emergency fund built up(which i have by the way).

id rather be out doing short days and ticking over.its better than sitting in getting cabin fever!

window cleaning and money is like a drug to me!i need my fix of both!!whether its -5 or 40 degrees!!

i also grit where needed with de icing salt and sweep any standing water away with a broom in minus conditions.


regards


dazmond