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Arnold Palmer

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2013, 01:38:58 pm »
Quote from: ♠Winp®oClean♠
I would suggest that some (mentioning no names) invest in new thermometers!! ;D

My thermometer works just fine thank you very much. Besides, the thermometer that showed -15 was the schools, apparently they need it because the cretins aren't supposed to be doing outside activities below a certain temperature.  ::)roll

Quote from: Dave Willis
What's the technique of cleaning at minus fifteen? As soon as the glass is freezing up or the bristles go rock hard i'm off home.

The trick is to keep the whole kit and caboodle warm through circulation. Rotation of poles is necessary and you need to squeegee the glass straight after you've done it - one man with the WFP one man behind him with a squeegee pole. Not particularly efficient or cost effective but worth it when there is a large-ish contract at stake.

They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

ben M

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2013, 01:45:11 pm »
I would suggest that some (mentioning no names) invest in new thermometers!! ;D


+1  ;D

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2013, 01:46:11 pm »
In 2010 we had the Mpemba effect in many areas when we heated water. Heated water was a disadvantage.

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2013, 01:51:27 pm »
Quote from: ♠Winp®oClean♠
I would suggest that some (mentioning no names) invest in new thermometers!! ;D

My thermometer works just fine thank you very much. Besides, the thermometer that showed -15 was the schools, apparently they need it because the cretins aren't supposed to be doing outside activities below a certain temperature.  ::)roll

Quote from: Dave Willis
What's the technique of cleaning at minus fifteen? As soon as the glass is freezing up or the bristles go rock hard i'm off home.

The trick is to keep the whole kit and caboodle warm through circulation. Rotation of poles is necessary and you need to squeegee the glass straight after you've done it - one man with the WFP one man behind him with a squeegee pole. Not particularly efficient or cost effective but worth it when there is a large-ish contract at stake.


Not exactly WFP then? ;D


roundbuilder

Re: Cold king!
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2013, 02:05:09 pm »
-2 never work if colder than that.

Arnold Palmer

  • Posts: 20706
Re: Cold king!
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2013, 02:15:52 pm »
Quote from: ♠Winp®oClean♠
Not exactly WFP then? ;D

Was it a pole fed with water, you mean?

Errrr yes it was exactly that.
They're eeeting the dogs.
They're eeeting the cats.
They're eeeting the pets,
of the people who live there.

PoleKing

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2013, 02:24:51 pm »
It's going to sound like 1upmanship but -15, honest  ;D

No, I believe you.
Fair play to you.
I was hoping to hear of someone cleaning past -20 tbh.
Bit of banter with the customers if they say you're brave/stupid I wanted to be able to say yeah but I heard someone clean @-21...
Just because...
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PoleKing

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2013, 02:26:39 pm »
And I'm living the 'it can't be done' lads.
When it has been done by a number of us.

Magic? Witchcraft? Nope, a caravan boiler and a bottle of propane.
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SeanK

Re: Cold king!
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2013, 02:28:51 pm »
Minus 4 in a freezing fog until the pole froze up while extended and wouldn't retract
no matter what I tried.
Had to drive home with the end sticking out of the passenger window.
Lucky I hadn't to drive far and it was only a 18 footer.
Never again I now make hay while the sun shines.

PoleKing

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2013, 02:31:31 pm »
Minus 4 in a freezing fog until the pole froze up while extended and wouldn't retract
no matter what I tried.
Had to drive home with the end sticking out of the passenger window.
Lucky I hadn't to drive far and it was only a 18 footer.
Never again I now make hay while the sun shines.

Lil' tip if it happens again.
Melt the ice on the heat from your exhaust.
I had to do it before I went hot.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Bay View WCS

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2013, 02:38:47 pm »
Minus 4 in a freezing fog until the pole froze up while extended and wouldn't retract
no matter what I tried.
Had to drive home with the end sticking out of the passenger window.
Lucky I hadn't to drive far and it was only a 18 footer.
Never again I now make hay while the sun shines.

Lil' tip if it happens again.
Melt the ice on the heat from your exhaust.
I had to do it before I went hot.

Good tip that - note to self!

Diamond standard ltd

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2013, 03:12:44 pm »
How wrong are you!! Done it

Did you attend any physics classes at school?

Are you really willing to embarrass yourself in a public forum?? ::)roll
lol ask the lads in Canada what they use in there water.  Lol then we will see!!

Dave Willis

Re: Cold king!
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2013, 03:14:09 pm »
I got mine stuck at 45'  :o

I had to bring it down and feed it through the passenger window with the heater on full blast a bit at a time. Lucky I was in a big deserted car park.


There was a Russian guy on here a couple of years back, I think he was chucking isopropanol in the tank.

Normally my jets freeze at about minus four then the bristles followed shortly by the quick release connector.

gary999

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2013, 04:27:28 pm »
if you are cleaning residential property at -14 what are you
doing about the water hitting the floor,at those temps it
must be freezing on contact...grit and salt only work down to certain
temps..and thats if customers are happy to have it put down in
the first place.

Seems a little dangerous and irresponsible allround to me

anything below -2 im not interested...got my feet up relaxing :)

Simon Mess

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2013, 04:45:47 pm »
Just got me thinking, what's the coldest anyone has ever WFP'd in?
I'm at -14 2 years ago in East Midlands.
I'm sure the scots lads could beat that though...
There may well be some scots lads who work in that, but it aint me!.

I have worked below freezing, but with my cold water system it is a pretty laborious process.
Water on
Water freezes
Work away very slowly agitating frozen water till the water is running all the way down
Wash window
Rinse
Yawn
Repeat on next window!.

No, I tend to stay at home until temp has risen to around freezing!

PoleKing

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2013, 04:48:23 pm »
if you are cleaning residential property at -14 what are you
doing about the water hitting the floor,at those temps it
must be freezing on contact...grit and salt only work down to certain
temps..and thats if customers are happy to have it put down in
the first place.

Seems a little dangerous and irresponsible allround to me

anything below -2 im not interested...got my feet up relaxing :)

I don't clean where the water will leave a puddle (ice rink) where the rain wouldn't normally.
Don't do front doors as a rule in winter.

Not a lot will stop me working.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2013, 05:55:29 pm »
Remember "Moem Gorod" who posted on here from Leningrad/St. Petersburg. That must be a cold place in winter
It's a game of three halves!

Small but perfectley formed

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2013, 05:55:50 pm »
How did you stop the tank of water from freezing and the hose going into pump ?
Spit and polish

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2013, 05:59:04 pm »
if you are cleaning residential property at -14 what are you
doing about the water hitting the floor,at those temps it
must be freezing on contact...grit and salt only work down to certain
temps..and thats if customers are happy to have it put down in
the first place.

Seems a little dangerous and irresponsible allround to me

anything below -2 im not interested...got my feet up relaxing :)

I don't clean where the water will leave a puddle (ice rink) where the rain wouldn't normally.
Don't do front doors as a rule in winter.

Not a lot will stop me working.



What do you do in -15 then, wfp the insides!! ::)roll

Honestly, I've heard it all. Did your parents not provide you with toys?

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Cold king!
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2013, 05:59:46 pm »
Quote from: ♠Winp®oClean♠
Not exactly WFP then? ;D

Was it a pole fed with water, you mean?

Errrr yes it was exactly that.

No, the fact that you have to immediately blade the pure off to prevent sheet ice! ::)roll