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Kev Martin

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #80 on: November 29, 2013, 09:24:13 am »
Richy

Clearly the dump hose for the water!  Then it is really down to what the debris is and the size of it!  Once the water is dumped if it were just big stuff I would probably just empty it into a sack if it's silt you will notice just below the dump hose outlet there is a square cut out that collects the silt we either just vac that out or use a muslin liner depending on how big the job is.  If it's a job that we hhave several vacs on then we tend to use a mini soteco 27 litre to empy the last of the crap out of the big vacs.  A lot depends on the job

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Richy L

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #81 on: December 03, 2013, 05:16:24 pm »
I used the gutter vac yesterday on a job that was inaccessible by ladders.
It was mostly leaves and a little sludge.

It was great! I flew though it. The vac was so powerful I had to keep it at 2 motors instead of the 3.
The end of the vac kept sucking to the gutter though.is that common?

BDCS

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #82 on: December 03, 2013, 06:38:41 pm »
You were cleaning ogee gutters and you have a flat cut to the tube, this presents a flat edge that sucks to the bottom of the gutter. Cut a small vee out of the leading egde to relieve the vacuum - its the air flow that does the cleaning.

Matt Gibson

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #83 on: December 03, 2013, 07:13:44 pm »
I tried mine out the other day on the in-laws house. Gutters werent very full, so didnt get the full impression of it, but it sucked out the sludge/slate dust from the bottom.

I found that the 50mm pipe im using for the nozzle was a big big for the gutter (slight overhang of the slates)

Think im going to need to make up a few different types of nozzle.

Richy, What nozzles did you make up?

BDCS

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #84 on: December 03, 2013, 07:21:49 pm »
I use 50mm and 37mm round tubes and a 50mm tube flattened to about 25mm

Matt Gibson

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #85 on: December 03, 2013, 07:50:56 pm »
Have you got a link to where i can get a reducer? i have a 51mm silicone bend, and i was thinking of trying to use a 38mm nozzle.

Cant really find much o ut there. Need something that will fit in the end of the 51mm silicone and be able to take a piece of 38mm tube the other end.

I havent got around to squashing down my tube.

chris scott

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2013, 10:05:26 pm »
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APS-Straight-Length-Reducer-Silicone-Silicon-Hose-Rubber-Coolant-Radiator-Pipe-/360608811461?pt=UK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET&var=&hash=item53f5f5c9c5

Wet a rag with fairy liquid and wipe the tapers on your  poles ...stops them sticking together.
(I believe Carl lubes his boyfriend up like this)
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Richy L

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #87 on: December 03, 2013, 10:18:42 pm »
I use the 50mm at the mo. It was fine the job I did the other day.
I have enough pipe to make another two, mabe three.

It just took ages to cut it though with my little hacksaw!


Did you buy the camera you suggested to me Matt?If so, what do you think of it?

BDCS

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #88 on: December 03, 2013, 10:40:12 pm »
Spend a little more and get longer silicon hoses / joiners as the longer ones support the tubes better. Chris Saville - fairies liquid - I heard you swallowed your pride  :)

Matt Gibson

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #89 on: December 04, 2013, 08:11:42 am »
Richy,

Yeah, i bought the same camera. It worked well when i tested it. Clear picture. I found it a bar5tard to get it in the right position to see the inside of the gutter though!

Carl/Chris

I am using a 135 degree silicone bend at the moment thats 51mm. If i buy one of the adapters that you recommend, how will i fit it in the end of the bed? or just buy one that fits and step it down? Was hoping that there would be a fitting/reducer that i could just slide in the 51mm end of the bend and then slide a piece of 38mm tube in the other end of the reducer.

BDCS

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #90 on: December 04, 2013, 10:31:50 am »
I use a short piece of 50mm tube but a 135 degree 51 - 37 reducer is available in silicone - theres more than one way to skin a cat.

Smurf

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #91 on: December 13, 2013, 05:08:40 pm »
Hi chaps just wondering how you are getting on with your guttervacs?

Kev Martin

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #92 on: December 16, 2013, 08:21:36 am »
Richy / Matt / Dave / Carl

How are the gutter vacs?  Is there anyway we can get the Germans to improve them?  I have to say we have now sold around 27 of them and I have jheard very little and had no feedback!  Don't know if "No News is Good News" any feedback appreciated good or bad!

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

drive surgeon

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #93 on: December 16, 2013, 06:21:34 pm »
Vac amazing mate we got off you. A million times better than the Chinese Liam vac we got off eBay years ago.  One question was going to ask you is when we are sucking gutters that are fairly dry with dust and leaves in and dry moss will that affect the motors if the dust gets in?  We don't want to put the filter in cos it will get filthy. Thanks kev



drive surgeon

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #94 on: December 16, 2013, 06:22:46 pm »
Kiam not Liam.  Chinese tat.

BDCS

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #95 on: December 16, 2013, 06:38:42 pm »
Kevin,

I don't honestly believe I can pass comment as I use a home grown set up which is the way it is to overcome the original set up's short fall. The original vacuum started to fall to bits and then blew a vacuum so I dusted the skip vac off and found it better than the original although 3000w opposed to alledged 4200w. It waste drum drops off the bottom onto casters to m/t and has s screen and fluid valve below. Its heavy and its too big to fit through a door which means its restricted when it comes to terraced houses with no rear access. A pump out would be nice when its raining and for other work but we just stop and drain the tub.

I find a 50mm vac inlet no real problem but suck a bucket of water regularly to clean the whole system.

I have tapered carbon fishing tubes which are a pleasure after the telescopic alloy versions.

The power pole is heavy but gets good use as I have various attachments for the 10mm QR - hooks, spike, disc and nozzles to P/W.

You would have to test side by side to really know whats best but some would still moan and we all know who they would be  ;)

Kev Martin

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2013, 07:59:03 pm »
Vac amazing mate we got off you. A million times better than the Chinese Liam vac we got off eBay years ago.  One question was going to ask you is when we are sucking gutters that are fairly dry with dust and leaves in and dry moss will that affect the motors if the dust gets in?  We don't want to put the filter in cos it will get filthy. Thanks kev




There is an additional filter which cover the float chamber inlet and therefore protects the motor from crap. I will talk to the Germans for you tomorrow and let you know


Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Kev Martin

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2013, 08:01:41 pm »
Kevin,

I don't honestly believe I can pass comment as I use a home grown set up which is the way it is to overcome the original set up's short fall. The original vacuum started to fall to bits and then blew a vacuum so I dusted the skip vac off and found it better than the original although 3000w opposed to alledged 4200w. It waste drum drops off the bottom onto casters to m/t and has s screen and fluid valve below. Its heavy and its too big to fit through a door which means its restricted when it comes to terraced houses with no rear access. A pump out would be nice when its raining and for other work but we just stop and drain the tub.

I find a 50mm vac inlet no real problem but suck a bucket of water regularly to clean the whole system.

I have tapered carbon fishing tubes which are a pleasure after the telescopic alloy versions.

The power pole is heavy but gets good use as I have various attachments for the 10mm QR - hooks, spike, disc and nozzles to P/W.

You would have to test side by side to really know whats best but some would still moan and we all know who they would be  ;)

Carl
Thanks mate. All info helpful it means we can develop the concept further and improve

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

drive surgeon

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #98 on: December 17, 2013, 04:00:53 pm »
Thanks Kevin. This summer we did loads of gutters and cos it was so dry the gutters where dusty off the tiles and the dust was looming everywhere but if you put the filter in and u hit wet moss or water it will mess it all up so we need  a filter for all debris and fluids ideally. Cheers mate

chris scott

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Re: Gutter vac- complete set up
« Reply #99 on: December 17, 2013, 04:21:29 pm »
Kevin,

I don't honestly believe I can pass comment as I use a home grown set up which is the way it is to overcome the original set up's short fall. The original vacuum started to fall to bits and then blew a vacuum so I dusted the skip vac off and found it better than the original although 3000w opposed to alledged 4200w. It waste drum drops off the bottom onto casters to m/t and has s screen and fluid valve below. Its heavy and its too big to fit through a door which means its restricted when it comes to terraced houses with no rear access. A pump out would be nice when its raining and for other work but we just stop and drain the tub.

I find a 50mm vac inlet no real problem but suck a bucket of water regularly to clean the whole system.

I have tapered carbon fishing tubes which are a pleasure after the telescopic alloy versions.

The power pole is heavy but gets good use as I have various attachments for the 10mm QR - hooks, spike, disc and nozzles to P/W.

You would have to test side by side to really know whats best but some would still moan and we all know who they would be  ;)

Carl
Thanks mate. All info helpful it means we can develop the concept further and improve

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd
To develop the concept further you need to change the a shape of the vac to a round one. Along with recognizing due to the working environment you should only be supplying 110 volt ones .
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267