[A & J Owen Window Cleaning]

Is it safer, yes

Is it faster yes

Does it always do a better IMO no.

I use both methods, I choose which I think will be a better finish as I like to leave a job as I think it should be left and how I would like my windows to be cleaned.

Gordon

+1

+2

[dazmond]

danny what pole do you use as your day to day pole?do you take glucosamine and cod liver oil every day?

extreme poles and extreme brushes for regular cleans really do cut down on strain.

robertphil wfp has been the best decision ive ever made in window cleaning,yes it costs a lot more(esp when you want the best lightest poles on the market)but i earn a lot more which easily covers the extra cost and then some.

nowt wrong with trad only but its slower and you just cant clean windows as effective and add on jobs just cant be done to a good standard without busting a gut hanging off a ladder with a cloth/trad pole!!

[windiewasher]

Been trad then WFP then back again to trad.

Main reason the van I had was poope and maybe should have got better van. I sold everything and went back trad as I knew I could get the work at high prices without the hassle of being WFP.

After a while I've looked at WFP and know I should have got better set up but then van insurance had risen and with the tank I wanted I couldn't be insured so I had found an excuse not to do it.

Now I'm planning to be WFP by feb 2014. Will still clean trad but will be concentrating on gaining WFP work and more commercials

Danny

In other words you couldnt afford it?

[robertphil]

busting a gut,  this is the clincher for me.  now  you line up 10 wfp and 10 trad  sideways on and see which  have the gut  sticking out like a big  extra bum  .  is wfp easier on your body in the long run , i doubt it  

[dazmond]

robertphil i havent got a big belly!! ;DAND i have enough energy to go the gym and swimming now im not running up and down ladders all day!I keep the hose reel in the van and use ultra light carbon poles.

if your happy stay with the ladders!i think your foolish though if you have a busy workload.


regards

[gary999]

vanity...or safety...mmmmm! which one i wll pick!

[Danny Guest]

Been trad then WFP then back again to trad.

Main reason the van I had was poope and maybe should have got better van. I sold everything and went back trad as I knew I could get the work at high prices without the hassle of being WFP.

After a while I've looked at WFP and know I should have got better set up but then van insurance had risen and with the tank I wanted I couldn't be insured so I had found an excuse not to do it.

Now I'm planning to be WFP by feb 2014. Will still clean trad but will be concentrating on gaining WFP work and more commercials

Danny

In other words you couldnt afford it?

Money wasn't an issue, I just had problems with the van.

A few days like bob plum waiting for parts to arrive and thought I'm not bothering with this. It was round that time I was getting out of window cleaning but changed my mind later on.

I sold on a lot of work too then started rebuilding. Now I have more work, better priced and all monthly. Now I'm thinking I would love to have a WFP set up instead of ladders.

Ill admit that I jumped in first time without looking at the better options at the time such as microbore hoses and lighter poles. I guess the timing was wrong but here I am coming for a second go...

[Danny Guest]

I've now got a daughter and I'm always thinking that the safety aspect will always outweigh any other factor.

[dannymack]

Daz is it me or Danny guest regarding what pole everyday use
I use a Gardiners 37 ft slx and also the cheap unger green pole which to be fair do last along time as when the pole slips abit I take the clamp off puts electrical tape under the clamp and is as good as new. I've got the cill brush on it but not the lightest so make sure I eat 4 weetabix pmsl 😁

[dave f]

i dont give a monkys which is better saftey is paramount do you reley think a custy is gonna give a poope if you fell  of the poxy ladders .that would be a big fat NO THEN.accidents waiting to happen ,what about family whose life gets turned upside down. if the worst happens god forbid.its about time folk woke up trad aint worth a life.phew ive said it

[dannymack]

Bloodyhell Davey Boy I bet you feel better for that pmsl !!! Your right thou and I think all the trad workers or shiners if you can afford but won't go wfp I think you should all do it and move forward with the time as trad is now a thing of the past time to move forward. Robots in years to come to clean them dirty berty mork & mindos ie windows   Feeeeeewwwww dats better as well lol 😳😳😜

[wfp master]

Is it safer, yes

Is it faster yes

Does it always do a better IMO no.

I use both methods, I choose which I think will be a better finish as I like to leave a job as I think it should be left and how I would like my windows to be cleaned.

Gordon

+1

+1

[dave f]

we will have to keep banging the wfp drum untill the trad dinosours wake up looks like itll be a long time though

[Don Kee]

Why try to convert people to pole?
Leave tradders to it, if they're happy then they're happy....
People still ride horses, some people drive a car....
As long as people are happy leave them to it

[one eyed window cleaning]

Is it safer, yes

Is it faster yes

Does it always do a better IMO no.

I use both methods, I choose which I think will be a better finish as I like to leave a job as I think it should be left and how I would like my windows to be cleaned.

Gordon

All the way!

[PoleKing]

Why try to convert people to pole?
Leave tradders to it, if they're happy then they're happy....
People still ride horses, some people drive a car....
As long as people are happy leave them to it

+1

[Gordon_Taylor]

At the end of the d it's personal choice! if I want to use trad I will if I want to use a pole I will.

Thats why I am self employed so I dont have to dictated to.

It winds me up when people bang on about what if and what if that, yes it is a very dangerous job which is why we are well rewarded for it.

If you want to talk about danger and the effect it would have on other peoples lives, what if you hit a car from behind that had a family in it with half a ton or more of water on board it would be the same as an emty van of course it wouldn't, Yet we all still do it without worrying

The amount of people I see using water fed poles that have no cones out to warn the public, this could effect other peoples lives!

If you are very good with a squeegee does not mean you will be good with a pole! with that in mind some people may just prefer the finish they get with trad.

Regardless whether people think I am mad thats up to them I wil continue to use both methods as I don't think you can use either methods on everything so I will use what I think is best.

Regards,

Gordon

[PoleKing]

At the end of the d it's personal choice! if I want to use trad I will if I want to use a pole I will.

Thats why I am self employed so I dont have to dictated to.

It winds me up when people bang on about what if and what if that, yes it is a very dangerous job which is why we are well rewarded for it.

If you want to talk about danger and the effect it would have on other peoples lives, what if you hit a car from behind that had a family in it with half a ton or more of water on board it would be the same as an emty van of course it wouldn't, Yet we all still do it without worrying

The amount of people I see using water fed poles that have no cones out to warn the public, this could effect other peoples lives!

If you are very good with a squeegee does not mean you will be good with a pole! with that in mind some people may just prefer the finish they get with trad.

Regardless whether people think I am mad thats up to them I wil continue to use both methods as I don't think you can use either methods on everything so I will use what I think is best.

Regards,

Gordon

Sensible.
Other than the bit about the cone.

[Gordon_Taylor]

Hi Darren,

Surely if you are running hoses over roads and pavements? Or am I wrong?

Gordon

[PoleKing]

Hi Darren,

Surely if you are running hoses over roads and pavements? Or am I wrong?

Gordon

I think right/wrong perhaps isn't the way to look at it.
I don't use cones for domestic.
Not to say you're 'wrong' though. I just disagree that they are necessary.