[Kev Martin]

I thought window cleaning sueegee rubbers were black???  If so they would be useless on floors because they would mark!  The ones on our vacs are chemical resistant reinforced grey rubber.  My opinion is don't muck around and just buy a new head complete.  You just charge a £5 for every job you use your vac on end of.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

depends on the rubber compound numatic replacements are black no marking, former life worked for a few automotive rubber companies hence original post these should cost peanuts, why pay over the odds for parts that can be easily sourced at a fraction of the cost, reason I stay clear of dual pumps replacement parts ridiculous price

But that is the whole point isn't it!!!!   Everyone thinks they can source them for pennies but no one actually can!!!  What things should cost in our minds and what they actually cost are two different things!!!  What we think manufacturers/suppliers should be charging for their products is irrelevant.

How many people walk in to a Services on the Motorway and give Starbucks or Costa Coffee a fortune for a 1p Teabag or a Cup of Coffee???  I now make it my mission to stop at a services with a McDonalds so I can buy a Cup of Tea for 99p and I actually resent paying that much as well!  But no amount of complaining or moaning about the price is going to make Starbucks or Costa lower their prices is it?  Let's face it Starbucks don't even pay any tax on their exhorbitant prices either!!!

So the moral is NO Cheap Vac Rubbers Sorry

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

[G O Cleaning]

I thought window cleaning sueegee rubbers were black???  If so they would be useless on floors because they would mark!  The ones on our vacs are chemical resistant reinforced grey rubber.  My opinion is don't muck around and just buy a new head complete.  You just charge a £5 for every job you use your vac on end of.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

depends on the rubber compound numatic replacements are black no marking, former life worked for a few automotive rubber companies hence original post these should cost peanuts, why pay over the odds for parts that can be easily sourced at a fraction of the cost, reason I stay clear of dual pumps replacement parts ridiculous price

But that is the whole point isn't it!!!!   Everyone thinks they can source them for pennies but no one actually can!!!  What things should cost in our minds and what they actually cost are two different things!!!  What we think manufacturers/suppliers should be charging for their products is irrelevant.

How many people walk in to a Services on the Motorway and give Starbucks or Costa Coffee a fortune for a 1p Teabag or a Cup of Coffee???  I now make it my mission to stop at a services with a McDonalds so I can buy a Cup of Tea for 99p and I actually resent paying that much as well!  But no amount of complaining or moaning about the price is going to make Starbucks or Costa lower their prices is it?  Let's face it Starbucks don't even pay any tax on their exhorbitant prices either!!!

So the moral is NO Cheap Vac Rubbers Sorry

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

kev I wasn't asking you! The Numatic blade is a simple v section ,As stated worked in the industry as design engineer hence no the costs, what some suppliers charge is irrelevant if a simple alternative can be sourced else where for a fraction of the price. Ref dual pumps required a wheel for a wirlaway they wanted around £18 had to buy castor as they don't sell wheels individually, found supplier of the actual wheel part cost less than a pound.

[Rob Hall]

I thought window cleaning sueegee rubbers were black???  If so they would be useless on floors because they would mark!  The ones on our vacs are chemical resistant reinforced grey rubber.  My opinion is don't muck around and just buy a new head complete.  You just charge a £5 for every job you use your vac on end of.

Kev Martin 
Tiling Logistics Ltd

depends on the rubber compound numatic replacements are black no marking, former life worked for a few automotive rubber companies hence original post these should cost peanuts, why pay over the odds for parts that can be easily sourced at a fraction of the cost, reason I stay clear of dual pumps replacement parts ridiculous price

But that is the whole point isn't it!!!!   Everyone thinks they can source them for pennies but no one actually can!!!  What things should cost in our minds and what they actually cost are two different things!!!  What we think manufacturers/suppliers should be charging for their products is irrelevant.

How many people walk in to a Services on the Motorway and give Starbucks or Costa Coffee a fortune for a 1p Teabag or a Cup of Coffee???  I now make it my mission to stop at a services with a McDonalds so I can buy a Cup of Tea for 99p and I actually resent paying that much as well!  But no amount of complaining or moaning about the price is going to make Starbucks or Costa lower their prices is it?  Let's face it Starbucks don't even pay any tax on their exhorbitant prices either!!!

So the moral is NO Cheap Vac Rubbers Sorry

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

Starbucks don't throw the kettle away after 10 cups of tea or coffee do they?

[Kev Martin]

No they spend £25000 in the 1st place then pay for regular maintenance

[Rob Hall]

No they spend £25000 in the 1st place then pay for regular maintenance

not sure i understand.
I was comparing the 'Kettle" to the 'head' of the vac.

[Kev Martin]

I was using Starbucks as an analagy and they don't use Kettles do they?  They buy the very best and regularly maintain!  That's the whole point about the Vac Blades they are a consumable and if the German suppliers and Mac International have decided on just replacing the head there is nothing anyone can do about it is there?  So just get on with it and follow my suggestion and charge a custome £5 every job you use a vac on then you have scope to replace the head paid for every three jobs don't you?  Try and realise there are things beyond our control and this is one of them regardless of yours or my opinion.

What's more wait till you eventually start supplying Samich because you are going to have a lot bigger shocks when you start trying to buy spare parts!  Believe Me!!!

Ask Samich for the replacement cost of the Washer set in the water tank for instance  
Then when you get over that price ask them what your minimum purchase is of those washer sets is

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics

[Rob Hall]

I was using Starbucks as an analagy and they don't use Kettles do they?  They buy the very best and regularly maintain!  That's the whole point about the Vac Blades they are a consumable and if the German suppliers and Mac International have decided on just replacing the head there is nothing anyone can do about it is there?  So just get on with it and follow my suggestion and charge a custome £5 every job you use a vac on then you have scope to replace the head paid for every three jobs don't you?  Try and realise there are things beyond our control and this is one of them regardless of yours or my opinion.

What's more wait till you eventually start supplying Samich because you are going to have a lot bigger shocks when you start trying to buy spare parts!  Believe Me!!!

Ask Samich for the replacement cost of the Washer set in the water tank for instance  
Then when you get over that price ask them what your minimum purchase is of those washer sets is

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics

I assume that, as Samich and Klindex are EXACTLY the same thing, you have had these issues?
Sounds like you have had to replace some?

[Kev Martin]

I was using Starbucks as an analagy and they don't use Kettles do they?  They buy the very best and regularly maintain!  That's the whole point about the Vac Blades they are a consumable and if the German suppliers and Mac International have decided on just replacing the head there is nothing anyone can do about it is there?  So just get on with it and follow my suggestion and charge a custome £5 every job you use a vac on then you have scope to replace the head paid for every three jobs don't you?  Try and realise there are things beyond our control and this is one of them regardless of yours or my opinion.

What's more wait till you eventually start supplying Samich because you are going to have a lot bigger shocks when you start trying to buy spare parts!  Believe Me!!!

Ask Samich for the replacement cost of the Washer set in the water tank for instance  
Then when you get over that price ask them what your minimum purchase is of those washer sets is

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics

I assume that, as Samich and Klindex are EXACTLY the same thing, you have had these issues?
Sounds like you have had to replace some?

Yes we had to completely replace a water tank for a customer who purchased a Levighetor from your friend Amir Patwa.  The supposedly New Levighetor had been used as a Demo machine for over a year and the tank mechanism had rusted solid when he first tried to use it on a job.  Amir did not want to know!!!  So he turned to us and even though we hadn't sold the machine we serviced the Levighetor properly FOC and tried to replace the tank parts for him.  It turned out the tank washer set and mechanism was just short of the new price of the tank and we had to buy 10 sets minimum.  We got him a brand new tank instead and fitted it and then changed the castellated fittings for the AS on the planetario at cost!  That my friend is just one of dozens of ex  Amir Patwa customers we have helped!

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

[Rob Hall]

I was using Starbucks as an analagy and they don't use Kettles do they?  They buy the very best and regularly maintain!  That's the whole point about the Vac Blades they are a consumable and if the German suppliers and Mac International have decided on just replacing the head there is nothing anyone can do about it is there?  So just get on with it and follow my suggestion and charge a custome £5 every job you use a vac on then you have scope to replace the head paid for every three jobs don't you?  Try and realise there are things beyond our control and this is one of them regardless of yours or my opinion.

What's more wait till you eventually start supplying Samich because you are going to have a lot bigger shocks when you start trying to buy spare parts!  Believe Me!!!

Ask Samich for the replacement cost of the Washer set in the water tank for instance  
Then when you get over that price ask them what your minimum purchase is of those washer sets is

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics

I assume that, as Samich and Klindex are EXACTLY the same thing, you have had these issues?
Sounds like you have had to replace some?

Yes we had to completely replace a water tank for a customer who purchased a Levighetor from your friend Amir Patwa.  The supposedly New Levighetor had been used as a Demo machine for over a year and the tank mechanism had rusted solid when he first tried to use it on a job.  Amir did not want to know!!!  So he turned to us and even though we hadn't sold the machine we serviced the Levighetor properly FOC and tried to replace the tank parts for him.  It turned out the tank washer set and mechanism was just short of the new price of the tank and we had to buy 10 sets minimum.  We got him a brand new tank instead and fitted it and then changed the castellated fittings for the AS on the planetario at cost!  That my friend is just one of dozens of ex  Amir Patwa customers we have helped!

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

Doesn't come as a surprise from what I hear. I am not too sure where the friends rumour comes from
I understand he is not too happy with a certain company I am dealing with, he never said anything to me, but I was told by a very reliable source that he was very unhappy.
Life goes on eh?
Funny isn't it, I am supplying some new Samich Machinery to a company on his doorstep.

Rob Hall
Cleaned and Sealed

[Kev Martin]

Just sit back and wait for the Nuclear fallout from him.  He may be flavour of the Month on Mr Carrs forum at the moment with his wonderful "I can teach you everything in a day no matter how many of you there are courses" 

Personally don't care because when it all goes wrong most of theml seem to eventually turn up on my doorstep for help.

The long and short of it is!  The course he runs is free so he fills it easily!  I could run free courses and have a waiting list!  The truth of the matter is these are people going on what is supposed to be a stone restoration course with little or no knowledge! 

Lets face reality, it is really difficult to explain things like different diamonds and their effect, Mohs Scale, stunning, hot & cold polishing, edge grinding, hardening a surface, colouring to name but a few topics in a WEEK so how can he do it all in a day.

So they all go crowing about how good the course is when they have done it. When in reality they haven't even hardly touched on the subject.  This is why we insist you do our course first before the Klindex day.  Not because we want the money it is so at least you have an idea of what we are talking about.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

[Rob Hall]

Just sit back and wait for the Nuclear fallout from him.  He may be flavour of the Month on Mr Carrs forum at the moment with his wonderful "I can teach you everything in a day no matter how many of you there are courses" 

Personally don't care because when it all goes wrong most of theml seem to eventually turn up on my doorstep for help.

The long and short of it is!  The course he runs is free so he fills it easily!  I could run free courses and have a waiting list!  The truth of the matter is these are people going on what is supposed to be a stone restoration course with little or no knowledge! 

Lets face reality, it is really difficult to explain things like different diamonds and their effect, Mohs Scale, stunning, hot & cold polishing, edge grinding, hardening a surface, colouring to name but a few topics in a WEEK so how can he do it all in a day.

So they all go crowing about how good the course is when they have done it. When in reality they haven't even hardly touched on the subject.  This is why we insist you do our course first before the Klindex day.  Not because we want the money it is so at least you have an idea of what we are talking about.

Kev Martin
Tiling Logistics Ltd

.....and that is the reason why I have ALWAYS recommended YOUR course.
We may not see eye to eye on some things Kevin and I don't expect a birthday card from you next month, but as far as learning about our job, I think your course is the best I have done so far.
I am sure Mr Patwa has his own agenda!

Anyway, we haven't had an argument recently, you must be losing your touch!!