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g.brookes

  • Posts: 950
WFP tops / trad bottoms
« on: October 08, 2013, 05:45:40 pm »
Hi chaps.  Does anyone run it this way?  Im about to take someone on but i dont want to have to buy a bigger van and a new system.  I am toying with the idea of me wfp'ing the tops, and my mate doing the downstairs trad. 
Does this work well?  Is there any chance of the dripping from the tops leaving spotting on the bottoms after theyve been done trad?
Do you need to do each house in a certain pattern?
Thanks in advance

dannymack

  • Posts: 1624
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2013, 06:00:51 pm »
Tbh can't see the point in paying someone to trad the bottom windows as don't think you'll save that much time in wfp the bottoms yaself, you will save paying your m8's wages. Only my opinion some peeps may differ !!!

bobplum

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Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 06:10:52 pm »
Dont see the point
do all wfp

roundbuilder

Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2013, 06:19:39 pm »
Yes my mum and step dad do it like this and customer love it and has proved how much more they prefere the trad touch..
I do it with all first cleans which is why my folks think it should always be done like that.
It doesnt realy take that much longer and customers love it so win win doing it tradding lower windows.

H20cleaning

  • Posts: 2098
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2013, 06:23:52 pm »
why would you need a bigger van? only need a new hose reel and pole... if your pumps big enough it should run a 2 man system. One man do the fronts one do the backs, or if you have a compact round do a house each at a time

dannymack

  • Posts: 1624
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2013, 06:33:31 pm »
Don't agree Mick, why go to all the expense of a wfp then trad the bottom windows ? Also wfp to do it trad sorry m8 wfp is much faster that's right ain't it Bobski & H20 !!! 😀

g.brookes

  • Posts: 950
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2013, 06:34:45 pm »
I have a nemo van and a trolley system. So as I've said if need a bigger van (to carry enough water for 2 men) and I would need a whole new two man system (and I would want it fitted and crash tested) so talking about 2k on upgrading van and about 2k on a system.
That's why I'm asking how viable it is to trad the bottoms. I'm not bothered about speed cos trad when done well is barely slower than wfp including loading and unloading.
Anyway, I'm not interested in a discussion about that, I just wanna know if there's any problems or tips for doing this?
Thanks chaps

Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2013, 06:40:58 pm »
We do ours in a nice flowery pattern , the old dears like it  :D

Richard60

  • Posts: 701
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2013, 06:46:07 pm »
i do tops wfp
misses does bottom . n book .works well for us ( that is bottom window  ;D) not someones bottom if u know what i mean  ;D

g.brookes

  • Posts: 950
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2013, 06:49:56 pm »
haha Richard. do you not need to leave it a while before doing bottoms then?
oh, and thanks for the 'bottom' clarification haha

johnny bravo

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Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2013, 06:51:53 pm »
give the lad a brolley while doing bottoms

Richard60

  • Posts: 701
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2013, 06:57:18 pm »
she knocks door for money first .by the time she comes round to do bottom windows drippers have stopped .if its a house on its own i give her a helping hand .if thier are custies next door i carry on with tops .that way im not stopping to collect money or do book .which can be time consuming

ALF.LEVER

  • Posts: 54
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2013, 07:02:04 pm »
If you have wfp do it all wfp , don't bother trad turn it all wfp does better job anyway with frames and windows convert the lot u won't look back.

dazmond

  • Posts: 23968
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 07:05:08 pm »
i cant see a problem mate.some window cleaners aversion to tradding windows is beyond believe!! ::)roll ;D

i  trad some windows every day depending on the job. ;) :)
price higher/work harder!

mike1986

  • Posts: 432
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 07:05:14 pm »
Ive been doing it this way for a few years now wfp top trad bottom, and i tend to clean all the tops, then go back to where is started and clean bottoms. Than way the windows have stopped dripping by the time you get to each window.

Ive been thinking recently about changing to completely wfp also, and ive decided to stick to what im doing. I mean why double you expenses in resin or buy an expensive RO System, buy tank, pump etc... to save a minute or two on each house. Just my opinion.

Also i definatley agree that custys seem to be happier that i leave the bottom windows dry.

dannymack

  • Posts: 1624
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2013, 07:08:44 pm »
Well all I can say is each to there own !!!

ALF.LEVER

  • Posts: 54
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2013, 07:11:18 pm »
Yes each to there own all my customers now have been wfp for 5 years and they wouldn't go back to traditional, I pick a lot of work up cause normal window cleaner s don't clean frames :-*

Jack Harris

  • Posts: 256
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2013, 07:24:22 pm »
Used to work fine doing it this way for me and my bro

home6442

Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2013, 07:51:46 pm »
Yes each to there own all my customers now have been wfp for 5 years and they wouldn't go back to traditional, I pick a lot of work up cause normal window cleaner s don't clean frames :-*

What are you saying ? WFP windows cleaners aren't normal. :o ;D

H20cleaning

  • Posts: 2098
Re: WFP tops / trad bottoms
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2013, 09:30:58 pm »
the thing is... WFP you clean all the frames etc? however most of the trad lads I know only clean the windows and ledges if the customer is lucky. So how do you tell the customer that the upstairs windows will have everything cleaned but the downstairs only glass and ledges? if you do the frames aswell you must have a lot of cloths!!!