[CleanerCarpets]

Anyone made the change from a Scorpion to an Enforcer?

If you have i would love to hear your comments about comparable performance and reliability etc. Also - from what i can see the Enforcer is twin vac and doesnt run the 6.6 vacs - i am assuming thats good for reliability?

[irving]

Really, I had a top of the range machine from Ashby's, to many problems and the company??? Now got a Airflex Storm, 6 month old now and absolutely no problems, so if you want truckmount performance, that is what you got to go for! 

[CleanerCarpets]

thanks for that - was it the Enforcer you had?

[Russ Chadd]

I can only comment on what i know and as many of you know i have owned an Airflex Turbo, Jag 6.6, prowler, and the prochem steampro.
I now have an Enforcer... Not going to knock any of the other machines i have owned because they were all good all i can say about the Enforcer is that it has been well thought out by carpet cleaners for carpet cleaners.
The machine is very sturdy, extremely well thought out and very well constructed, i opted for the two Electro 5.7 motors which perform very well... even at 100'.
Pump has excellent flow too and the V2 inline heater is in a class of its own.

Love or hate Ashbys... they have created a really good machine.

[jim mca]

Russ

Don't think the v2 is any better than the magma

[CleanerCarpets]

cheers Russ, was hoping you might reply. Are those vac's the older proven ones? Would you say its lacks any water lift in comparison to the 2x 6.6 machines

[Russ Chadd]

Being a series machine it has higher lift than the parallel 6.6 machines...

On Ashbys site...
RECOMMENDED - 5.7 inch Standard Performance plus 5.7 inch Heavy Duty Performance 3 Stage Vacuum System PC9951
- 230 inches of water lift / 17 inches of mercury lift. Will operate up to 200 ft / 61 metres of vacuum hose.

Ironically Cleansmart have now put into production a machine which i think uses the same motors...

Series machines have better water lift where as parallel machines usually have better CFM... unless you are going to be using the machine with long lengths of hose go for series.

[john martin]

cheers Russ, was hoping you might reply. Are those vac's the older proven ones? Would you say its lacks any water lift in comparison to the 2x 6.6 machines

When the 6.6 vacs started to be used around 2-3 years ago there was myth going around the forums that it had higher lift than other vacs ... that was completely false .
But it is a very good motor .
Around that time Mytee started using the vacs Ashbys  are using in the enforcer now , made by Electro Motors in the USA  .
 Mytees CEO took to youtube at that time to try and dispel the rumors he knew were false .  It was lost on most at the time but its starting to resonate now .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KKAzll_-NA

[Brendan (chem2clean)]

hi russ,the enforcer looks like a great machine,the thing that would put me off would be there's no auto fill like the storm.How do you find it cleaning a whole house ,stopping and starting with a a pump with 400 psi.Dont get me wrong,i worked with prochem portys for years before i got a tm.

[Russ Chadd]

It has got auto fill.. its an add on, the same with the auto dump and the remote control system... my one is fully loaded and works a treat

[Brendan (chem2clean)]

russ how much for the machine with all the add ons

[Ken Leeder]

Some don't rate Ashby's service but I have found it very good. Had my Enforcer serviced today while I waited. Cost £99:50 plus vat and a few minor wearable parts to ensure another long period of unbroken use. It has been great to use since I bought it in March 2013 and has worked without incident on multiple jobs 6 or 7 days every week. Being from 'up north' the ability for it to work outside in the rain 'without a raincoat' is a big plus because we get plenty of it. It has halved my cleaning times since I got it.

[Russ Chadd]

To be honest i cant remember what i ended up paying for mine... ?
Here is the spec of my machine

Auto fill, auto dump (with 25' of dump hose) Immersion in tank heater, remote control, V2 external inline heater, 2 jet wand.

The motors are a s John Martin mentioned (x1 heavy duty x1 standard duty)
400 psi pump.

Van mounting is something which i just dont bother with now... the machine rolls off the van real easy to allow you to place it nearer the property thus saving you long lengths of cable, vac and solution hose... use the machine as a portable and you will not be disappointed!!

The best thing about it... one power cord will run both vacs and the pump

[Ian Gourlay]

How do you autofill with it Is that a hose to the tap.

Bet there is a lead for the V2

What about the immersion

So is that 3 leads and a hose.

Then you need a hose for auto dump

[Russ Chadd]

Ian

The auto fill is a simple float valve fitted to a recessed lid on the top of the machine, if the hozeloc fitting leaks, the water falls into the solution tank rather than the floor which I think is a good design.

The V2 requires a cable, just as the immersion heater requires a cable ... The point is this... You  very rarely need all 3 plugged in at the same time... If you get to a job where there isn't much hot water  then set the machine up first and get the heater on, while you are vacuuming  and preparing , the water in the tank is getting hot... When you are ready to clean simply unplug the immersion cable and replace with the vac and pump cable. The water stays hot for ages once it's up to temperature.

The steam mate V2 usually gets placed closer to the wand so the chances are it's on a different circuit
As for the pump out hose  it's 1.5" and 25'... Fit it to the gate vale and let graverty do it's thing... Better system than a small bore hose and electric pump with a filter getting clogged up!

[john martin]

 The V2 is available built in also  ...  pros and cons to that .

 Would be interesting to see the performance if some of you Enforcer owners put in a second HD Electro instead of the SD  ...   Mytee had claimed  230" and 150 cfm for two  HD in series , im skeptical about the 150 however another chap on TMF also tested a similar figure .  Id say you would get a small but significant (in series) rise in cfm anyway and a little more lift .
You would be drawing 2 about two more amps on paper ...  7.2 amps max for a HD ... however Larry Cobb always revises the Max number to a lower number for ' in use ' in the extractor .   ( 6amps ) not sure how accurate that is  .

 http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=86&products_id=5163

[Russ Chadd]

Hey John

Am I right in believing that part of the thinking of using a standard duty motor is that it has a different rpm compared to the heavy duty?
Also the lower wattage motor would produce less heat which is fed into the second motor... ?

As I type this message I am at Ashbys having my 6 month service done... I will ask them what they think

[john martin]

Hey John

Am I right in believing that part of the thinking of using a standard duty motor is that it has a different rpm compared to the heavy duty?
Also the lower wattage motor would produce less heat which is fed into the second motor... ?

As I type this message I am at Ashbys having my 6 month service done... I will ask them what they think

I would be fairly sure its just to keep amps low  ...  but sure , pick their brains on motors  , would be interesting to hear what they think .

[Russ Chadd]

The two motors and the pump will draw a maximum of 13 amps as it is... Two HD motors and you could be getting into problems tripping the customers electric.
I suppose for the slight improvement in lift and CFM you are compromising with reliability which is more important.

[CleanerCarpets]

Russ - what about the shower proof design? it says its shower proof but then says you can work with it outdoors in all weathers. Surely you couldnt leave it outside if it was p~ssing it down!?