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Darren O

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Saphire Upholstery Tool
« on: October 02, 2013, 01:12:05 pm »
Just paid about £430 for this hand tool used it today for the first time wasn't that impressed to be honest ended up finishing up using my CFR.The last time I had this feeling was when I wasted over £500 on a Wonder Wand.

John Kelly

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 01:37:09 pm »
Thats the problem with handtools Darren they are a personal choice. Allways best if you can borrow one first to try.

Radek Jablonski

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 01:58:50 pm »
I did not like sapphire when I tried it, somethimes you need to clean deeper and this tool wont let you that
also prefer cfr as it is also perfect for car valeting
some likes cfr, some sapphire and some prefer to have them both for different jobs
me, I would not spend extra money for sapphire when having cfr already

Darren O

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 01:59:33 pm »
Iam actually think of selling it John even though ive only used it once that's how much I don't fancy it.

Darren O

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 02:05:01 pm »
Radek the only thing I liked about it was the size of the head.

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 02:12:09 pm »
The Sapphire is IMO easily the best upholstery tool on the market today regardless if it is normal or deep cleaning. You must be using it wrong

Darren O

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 02:19:43 pm »
Simon your opinion dosent mean much to me to be honest.


john martin

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 02:46:59 pm »

 I couldn't live with the Sapphire alone either  ,  but its worth having on the van , its a joy to use when when the job is suitable . But its not so good on curved areas ,sharp angles ,crevices , buttons , piping , etc  and if its really dirty iv found it even after good preparation it would take about 10 passes to equal one or two on my other main tool , a metal enclosed spray out tool  , never had a CFR would like to try one though .

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 03:02:43 pm »
its not so good on curved areas ,sharp angles ,crevices , buttons , piping , etc

I don't recognise any of the above as being a problem with the sapphire. I think if you are changing from a conventional tool then you will find it different but when you get used to it you probably wouldn't swap it. We regularly use the SS tool to clean extremely dirty and challenging upholstery on ferries, in fact, we haven't come across a piece of furniture we can't clean with it, but any upholstery tool is only supposed to be removing pre-loosened soil, so if you are having to make multiple passes to get something clean you've done something wrong.

Simon

davep

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john martin

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 03:14:34 pm »
its not so good on curved areas ,sharp angles ,crevices , buttons , piping , etc

I don't recognise any of the above as being a problem with the sapphire. I think if you are changing from a conventional tool then you will find it different but when you get used to it you probably wouldn't swap it. We regularly use the SS tool to clean extremely dirty and challenging upholstery on ferries, in fact, we haven't come across a piece of furniture we can't clean with it, but any upholstery tool is only supposed to be removing pre-loosened soil, so if you are having to make multiple passes to get something clean you've done something wrong.

Simon

I've had plenty of time to get used to it   , that 'putting you finger over the vac slot method ' is just an excuse for the limitations of the design .  :)
I would use anything that makes the job easier and i don't find it the fastest tool to get the desired result in every situation .   But i would defiantly keep it .
  

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2013, 03:18:15 pm »
that 'putting you finger over the vac slot method ' is just an excuse for the limitations of the design . 

You have to use that technique with every tool where the fabric you're cleaning is thinner than the width of the tool. :o

john martin

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2013, 03:37:01 pm »
that 'putting you finger over the vac slot method ' is just an excuse for the limitations of the design . 

You have to use that technique with every tool where the fabric you're cleaning is thinner than the width of the tool. :o

You can also narrow the tool width by holding it a sideways angle  .
or in certain cases like the front of certain armrests the open hose cuff will make better contact than a sapphire anyway .

JandS

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 05:56:18 pm »
I like the Drimaster.
Is the CFR the same principle as the DM as in two vac slots and a jet between?
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2013, 07:13:42 pm »
I never got on with the sapphire I moved back to the cfr IMO its more precise you can clean edges, corners and rounded bits didn't feel you could with the sapphire and the build quality was shoddy but again IMO I'd say it is made for a truckmount not a porty.

Shaun

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2013, 07:14:57 pm »
Sapphire at work on some filthy upholstery. Piece of cake.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2013, 07:30:09 pm »
But you should be able to do that with any upholstery tool providing you've done your preparation work properly its the ergonomics of it, in theory it is easy to use but I thought the way it missed smaller areas was open to me leaving nooks and crannies uncleaned, the horses for courses comes in to play here.

Shaun


Paul Moss

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Re: Saphire Upholstery Tool
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2013, 07:55:26 pm »
I have 5 different uph tools to choose from, I use the sapphire for about 80% of my work.
Uph tools are like everything else, good to the individual user that's why there are so many choices, it's very similar with wands, chems etc.

No biggy guys just try them all till you get the one suites you best.  ;)